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Title: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: Deb on March 01, 2009, 04:43:07 PM
Just wondering what you guys prefer to run.
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: Thayne on March 01, 2009, 07:55:19 PM
coil....leafs can be itchy B's
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: TuFast on March 02, 2009, 07:25:30 AM
I guess it depends on where you run.
At Delaware I would say 80% of the cars are leaf spring and do very well, but at Barrie the coils seem to do a bit better.
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: longstreet on March 02, 2009, 09:08:07 AM
leafs are more forgivable for newbies but like thayne says its wave a magic wand over them, when you get a coil car right it is a rocket.
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: Thunder6 on March 02, 2009, 09:21:00 PM
Talk to 10 people, get 10 different answers ;D

From what I hear the leaf rates run by the Camaros are pretty close to what we run with coils, so I guess it doesn't matter anyhow :)
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: larue on March 02, 2009, 10:56:04 PM
For one,i can change a coil spring in less then 5 min,and cheaper to buy,and less space to store them in the trailer,jmo
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: longstreet on March 03, 2009, 08:44:26 AM
very true, but i can put in/take out rear steer on a leaf in under 5 mins. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: larue on March 03, 2009, 12:02:20 PM
very true, but i can put in/take out rear steer on a leaf in under 5 mins. ;D ;D
That long!!!off-set bushing in a 4 link,are alot quicker. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: longstreet on March 03, 2009, 01:45:29 PM
and illegal here :D :D
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: Thunder6 on March 04, 2009, 12:02:34 AM
larue knows lots about illegal modifications LOL, just ask him about roller rockers  ;D :o
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: longstreet on March 04, 2009, 08:53:32 AM
what do you mean? i thought roller were stock on all 1982 gmc half tons with a sbc.
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: DB71 on March 05, 2009, 09:38:43 PM
very true, but i can put in/take out rear steer on a leaf in under 5 mins. ;D ;D
That long!!!off-set bushing in a 4 link,are alot quicker. ;D ;D ;D

How about 3rd link, panhard bar, tubular lowers with hiem ends and load bolt rear coils.
Now that's adjustable rear suspension, and legal here..
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: larue on March 05, 2009, 10:34:12 PM
Damm DB,you running Mosport with that thunder/sportman...lmao
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: DB71 on March 06, 2009, 06:34:18 AM
Damm DB,you running Mosport with that thunder/sportman...lmao
Nope, that's what we run at Delaware in the Super Stocks, it was the only way the coils could keep up with the leaf spring X & F Bodies, don't forget the Ford 9" as well.
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: chap on March 06, 2009, 07:24:47 AM
Delaware could have made the ride 6 inches and not had to do all that to the back
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: longstreet on March 06, 2009, 08:35:42 AM
very true, but i can put in/take out rear steer on a leaf in under 5 mins. ;D ;D
That long!!!off-set bushing in a 4 link,are alot quicker. ;D ;D ;D

How about 3rd link, panhard bar, tubular lowers with hiem ends and load bolt rear coils.
Now that's adjustable rear suspension, and legal here..
other than birdcages thats pretty much my slm rear suspension
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: DB71 on March 06, 2009, 10:02:09 PM
Delaware could have made the ride 6 inches and not had to do all that to the back

Although we can have a ride height as low as 4" most are close to 5" now, and we keep getting faster
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: up town on March 09, 2009, 12:35:43 PM
i just looked at the delaware rule it dosen't say you can run that stuff in a metic car 9inch and stock trailing arms or aftermarket arms not tubular nothing about jacking bolt or is that another unwritten delaware rule
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: larue on March 09, 2009, 07:42:45 PM
Up town,the aftermarket ones are tubular,some are adjustable and does it say if they are allowed??
You can run frt and rear load bolts,read a little closer,i seen it there.
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: napa55 on March 10, 2009, 08:02:12 PM
Most Delaware rules are unwritten!!!
Now I hear that they are allowing steel bodied Hooters cup cars to run as a Super Stock.  (Now that would be o.k. if all that was used from the Hooters cars would be the cage and frame, but something tells me thats not the case)
Over the last 3-4 seasons, the rule packages in all classes seemed to have really gotten out of hand.
JMO
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: larue on March 10, 2009, 11:39:54 PM
Napa55
i guess your a Waltrip fan!!LoL,do those Hooter Cup cars fall over there rules?Were they big spring cars or coil overs??
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: napa55 on March 11, 2009, 06:42:08 PM
Yeah I am a Waltrip fan, laugh all you want, I'm used to it.  Someone has to root for the underdogs.  I just really admire him for what he's building, and how much he loves what he does.  He also makes me laugh, that right there makes me a fan!!

All I know as of now about the Hooters cars, is what I've read on the grr-online forums.  Apparently Sid has 3 of DJ Kennigtons Hooters cars and converting them to Super Stocks.  (with the blessing of the race director at Delaware)  I don't know anything about Hooter cars, so I can't answer any questions.  I'm sure Sid reads this forum, so maybe he will post regarding this topic.  I do know that there is an old cascar sportsman that has been converted to a Nova, and is now a Trans Am.  How simular would a Hooters car be to a cascar sportsman? 

In my opinion (for what its worth), if this is the direction that the ss class is heading, the name should be changed to llm.
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: longstreet on March 11, 2009, 06:52:06 PM
thats ok napa55 the commercail with him, jarret and sammy hagar is still the funniest one ive seen.
Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: LMS-QUEBEC on March 31, 2009, 06:55:10 PM
Hooter's ended their sponsorship with USARPROCUP Sanctionning Body after 2008 racing season.

USARPROCUP were sold in late January.

Now called USARacing, but still www.usarprocup.com (http://) Website.

USARacing chassis are similar to NASCAR CAMPING WORLD SERIES (Old NASCAR BUSCH NORTH SERIES).

An another sanctionning body used similar rules and chassis than USARacing.

Super Stock-Car Series - http://www.supercupstockcarseries.com/ (http://www.supercupstockcarseries.com/)

http://www.supercupstockcarseries.com/SCSCS-Rulebook-2009.doc (http://www.supercupstockcarseries.com/SCSCS-Rulebook-2009.doc)

Title: Re: Thunder Car Suspension
Post by: NUMBER 81 on October 22, 2009, 11:30:35 PM
I WOULD HAVE TO SAY COILS ARE BEST, NOT BECAUSE YOU CAN RUN FASTER BUT BECAUSE MOST RACERS PROGRESS TO THE NEXT LEVEL OR ASPIRE TO PROGRES TO A HIGHER CLASS AND INEVIDIBLY THEY WILL BE RUNNING COILS. WHY NOT LEARN THE BASICS NOW RATHER THAN STEP UP A CLASS AND HAVE TO LEARN WHILE YOU ARE IN A FASTER CAR.
MCGLYNN THOUGHT