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Will All The Existing Stock Car Series Survive?

Yes
5 (33.3%)
No.
8 (53.3%)
Unsure
2 (13.3%)

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Voting closed: April 10, 2004, 11:01:40 AM

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Offline AutoAssembler

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« on: April 10, 2004, 11:01:40 AM »
Just wondering what the rest of you think? I'd like to see them all make it but I'm wondering, as far as competition & economic pressure goes, there's only so many pieces of the pie to go around, as far as finding sponsorship???

3 travelling Series (CASCAR/Carquest/ALSTAR) plus the NASCAR weekly series in Ont & Que.

I notice some of the NASCAR weekly drivers are also listed on the Carquest Schedule? Since they run on Friday nights  (not sure about St. Eustache), do you think these guys will run a few Sportsman/SuperSeries races as well??? From what I've heard Robblee will run a few Super Series races.

I've left out OSCAAR (they to me, are in a league all of their own) but they should be added into the equation as well?

And what about the Emco Series? Are they coming under fire from competition as well? Like to hear from you guys out west as well???

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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2004, 12:41:52 PM »
Oscaar is certainly part of the equation as they are a touring series and they have dates at all the tracks Alstar goes to and many that Cascar visits as well. As to the question of survival, that is an ongoing issue. It seems they are all simply moving from year to year and hoping to keep the enthusiasm for their respective series at a sustainable level, at least at this point in time. Long term title sponsors usually offset that issue quite a bit, but none of these groups (in Ontario at least) enjoy that benefit at the present time.
I dare say that some of the "junior series" of various sorts generally may have an even shakier future than the larger organizations.

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2004, 01:58:31 PM »
No, they all can't survive. There's just not that many cars to go around. It's already happened. OSLR is a prime example of a series going the way of the doe doe. The supers needed to be in one series with rules that made sense. They now have the one series, I'm not sure of the rules though. But in any event, the result will be better racing in the super lates than what we've seen in years.

So come up to the lab and see what's on the slab. I see you shiver in antici... pation.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2004, 03:01:38 PM »
Whether we actually get better racing with the super lates or not is still very much an open question. They certainly seemed to be heading the right way when the season ended last fall, but will it continue? The potential for more cars (we've yet to see what the counts will be like or if they will hold up over the entire season or not) does not automatically mean better racing, but we shall see in due time (cautiously optomistic).

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2004, 04:42:47 PM »
"Whether we actually get better racing with the super lates or not is still very much an open question."

How could it be worse? If it was headed in the right direction last year, what would lead you to believe that it will change at the beginning of this year? Where else would they go?

"The potential for more cars (we've yet to see what the counts will be like or if they will hold up over the entire season or not) does not automatically mean better racing, but we shall see in due time (cautiously optomistic)."

Again I have to dissagree, even if you get 4 more cars per race, ie hanley, wrigglesworth, mcginnis, owen, beyore....it'll make for better races. How could more cars, and good ones at that, possibly be worse? Hell even if just Hanley and Owens show up, it would be better.

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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2004, 08:36:31 PM »
I have to agree with c-more33, Their will be better racing in the Supers for sure!!!

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2004, 08:47:14 AM »
I must disagree. The bad old days (the years just before OSLR started) had larger fields but the racing was lousy. Will it be worse? Probably not. I never said it would be, but there's no way anyone can say it will automatically be better. It's not a given.

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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2005, 02:25:05 PM »
Just take a look at how many cars started the Alstar race at Barrie and that should tell you something about the future of this series....wow a whole NINETEEN  cars.
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2005, 03:50:11 PM »
I'm not ready to say Alstar is over, but the car count is a little troubling even though there were at least two drivers absent for personal reasons who would most likely have been at Barrie otherwise. That still falls short of the counts they have drawn in past years especially early in the season. Does it mean something for the future? Maybe, but not necessarily.
Oscaar looks promising with counts of 25 and 24 in their first two races. Will their numbers hold up? 24 cars at Sauble suggests that they just might and that's a "good thing". It's hard to imagine any less of a car turnout at Mosport July 2.

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