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Posted by: Desi21
« on: May 16, 2008, 05:18:49 PM »

maybe not....but they still shouldnt be putting down the chargers i just take offence to that...racing is fun and should be for every one and forsome one to call one division pathetic, they better think agian!
Posted by: Thayne
« on: May 15, 2008, 02:10:01 PM »

Axle isn't who u think it is Des.
Posted by: Desi21
« on: May 15, 2008, 08:27:54 AM »

so axle i know who you are and its pretty sad when you say stuff about the charger division even though your in it.. were only in the charger division because we are learning, and i know i have one year under my belt and you like like 3 dont you think thats sad and your still in the charger....sorry for putting you down but honestly thats what i think of you and putting down that charger division! :-\
Posted by: Crum-B
« on: April 03, 2008, 10:22:19 AM »

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Anyhow my pic for the 4 banger class this yr is the new driver for the 35 team!  The have hired a new French hot shoe Guy Ledouche, although the secondary driver Jacques Strap might be able to give Guy a run for his money if he can find a full-time ride.  Both Guy and Jacques have been burning up the tracks around scarcely know parts, they shoiuld have thier hands full at the tight Barrie Bull ring!

he he sounds like a talledega nights thing ;)
Posted by: WadePeterson
« on: March 27, 2008, 02:59:24 AM »

Anyhow my pic for the 4 banger class this yr is the new driver for the 35 team!  The have hired a new French hot shoe Guy Ledouche, although the secondary driver Jacques Strap might be able to give Guy a run for his money if he can find a full-time ride.  Both Guy and Jacques have been burning up the tracks around scarcely know parts, they shoiuld have thier hands full at the tight Barrie Bull ring!
Posted by: jcrashm2
« on: March 23, 2008, 07:55:12 PM »

yes he has 2 for sale. The other for $600 has cage only tacked in.
Posted by: smokinjoe00
« on: March 23, 2008, 07:27:51 PM »

ya bruce knows what he is doing with those volkswagens>>>great guy in the pits at sauble.....helps out everybody in that class and has sold 2 cars in the last year that will run there...havent heard what he is doing this year>>
Posted by: SpencerLewis
« on: March 23, 2008, 06:48:51 PM »

Bruce Beacock has a nice little VW for sale. $1000. All you need to do put in your own seat, fuel cell and dash. His cars always run up front at Sauble and i'm sure he would give you any info to help you out.
I have pics if anyone is interested or his email.
i think he has 2 for sale...im real surprised they havent sold yet, as his stuff has been great everytime ive seen it
Posted by: Justme
« on: March 23, 2008, 06:29:21 PM »

we spent about $1500 on Steeve's engine to race it for 3 years, that includes, a rebuild, the first year, a head rebuild the 2nd year and a head rebuild the 3rd year.....What cost us the most was putting the car together safely and putting new parts on the car all around. Anymore than $3500.00 asking for a mini stock is outrageous. you won't sell very quick. We sold ours the day after the last night of racing for $3500.00...If your looking to spend more than you might as well buy a Thundercar...I have about 13k or so into my new gen car and it's still not done. but were hoping it will run in the top 5 every night.
Posted by: jcrashm2
« on: March 23, 2008, 12:42:11 PM »

Bruce Beacock has a nice little VW for sale. $1000. All you need to do put in your own seat, fuel cell and dash. His cars always run up front at Sauble and i'm sure he would give you any info to help you out.
I have pics if anyone is interested or his email.
Posted by: Thunder6
« on: March 23, 2008, 12:41:37 PM »

I was talking about some of our younger friends who had some pretty wild rule suggestions after last season, a "Pro Mod" class or some major changes to the 4 cyl rules, gutting, drilled rotors, 2.5" exhaust etc... IMHO, no offense meant to the gentlemen who made these suggestions.
Posted by: Thayne
« on: March 23, 2008, 12:26:14 PM »

I think at BSW anyways, the right guys move up at the right time....all fo the p[ast champoions have moved on and many front runners as well....I am not entirely sure who is 'tricking out' their rides instead of moving up at this juncture...Burrows moved on, and they were the only dominate ones other than milligan.
Posted by: Thunder6
« on: March 23, 2008, 12:16:59 PM »

Pinecrest, yes it is a CSC, albeit an older one, I would guess a 90's CSC, no 6" setback etc... I know the car was racing at Barrie when they had the rule about the oil pressure light on the roof. It had a fresh frame in '04. I got lucky, its a good starting out car, not bent up, and it has fairly neutral handling as I got it. I learned from the car, but you can only go so far before you want to start your own new car, which is where I am right now... minus the budget of course  ;D

My point was also that while I understand V8 RWD technology and like the TC because that is what I identify from when I was a kid, that's why I race TC. I messed with musclecars and trucks before getting into racing ovals, I really don't have much experience with FWD or 4 cylinders. However I think FWD and 4 cylinders are the starting point for many younger people, it is quite often what they know. I totally agree with what you're saying about starting out. My difficulty is that now there are some of these 4 cylinder racers who don't want to move up a class, and really trick out the cars, which I don't think is really the intent of the class IMHO.
Posted by: Pinecrest
« on: March 23, 2008, 11:13:52 AM »

Any of those Thunder Cars are deals. Put it to you this way, as is usually the case, you can't build one for that cost. I have way more than $6500 in mine, it runs at the back, and I started with a $2000 car. The chassis from CSC costs at least $1800, the cage kit in a box is like $900. A local chassis builder builds one with a tin kit for a little better than $3000. I fully expect my new car when built will be about $15,000 no problem. It isn't cheap to race kids, but we do it because we love it right?

I can't see putting $5000 in a mini-stock, but some of these 4-cylinder guys refuse to drive a V8 metric car. They don't understand them and don't have any interest in them. I don't know how anyone can spend 5 big ones on a "purely stock" very limited modifications class... but then again racing is full of guys spending too much on the class they are in instead of moving up a class.

 Thunder6 is your car a CSC chassis ?

  You may not be able to see putting $5000 into a mini stock but right now there is a guy building a Honda that cant understand why anyone would put $10,000 + into an Iraqi Taxi . Many Super Modified guys don't get the Late Model guys and on down the line it goes . When they first started the Four Fun class at Sunset i was one of the biggest nay sayers but i have now seen where several drivers from that class have moved up a class or two and be come very good drivers and some that have the potential to be top Late Model drivers in the future like Ben Mellonhorst for example   . I think several of these guys may never have got into racing if their hadn't been a very inexpensive class to get their feet wet . I also see several fathers with sons in that class that are spending Saturday nights with each other and probally a night or two during the week working on their car and how can that be a bad thing in this day and age . There are now several tracks in Ontario , Oshweken being the latest to add this class because they see how its getting new people into the sport and yes adding a lot of money to the back gate . In retrospec Glen at Sunset looks pretty smart to me for identifying a niche that has so much of an upside and so many other tracks are now following . The point i am making is we all have different ideas on racing like how serious we want to get and how fast we want to go , other wise we would all be running Super Modifieds or 410 Sprint cars .


   Remember we all have to start somewhere even if it looks like junk to you .
Posted by: ministock19
« on: March 23, 2008, 09:49:52 AM »

  I figure it cost me 2500-3000 to build my 95 golf ministock,doing all the work myself(stripping/cage/motor/trans/electric),and the car ran upfront every week until it got wrecked.Btw that was with a $300 junk yard motor.My "built" motor grenaded before I got out of the shop,lol.

  Now,if you cant do all the work yourself,then $4000-$5000 for a top shelf mini is certainly not out of line.If I was buying a mini for an up and coming driver,I would buy a mid priced car for around $3500 and spend the extra dollars on a driving sghool.Driving skill makes most of the difference,especially at the lower levels.

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