Author Topic: Trevor Baynes thanks Jeff Gordon? (Read 4271 times)

CanadianRacingOnline · « **on:** October 23, 2011, 06:03:10 PM »

Way to go Trevor Baynes. Great way of thanking Jeff Gordon for helping you win in Daytona by hanging him out to dry today at Talladega.

I know it's every man for himself but that was quick leaving Gordon out to dry.

I think Baynes would have got a better finish if he stuck to the plan they talked about.

Gordon will remember that and I don't think he will be getting a push from Gordon any time soon and maybe a payback???

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **on:** October 23, 2011, 06:03:10 PM »

CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2011, 06:34:35 PM »

Well Gordon helped him to win the Daytona 500 and Trevor said he would help him but I guess Gordon knows know Trevor doesn't know how to return the favor.

The Daytona 500 is a bigger deal then this race and Gordon will remember this.

You team up with who can help you the most who cares if it wasn't ford they even said this in the booth.

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bfe · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23, 2011, 06:36:21 PM »

Bayne doesn't know who he is driving for next year maybe showing some balls would have helped.

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23, 2011, 06:36:21 PM »

charlie7 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2011, 06:58:23 PM »

Wes, do you actually think anyone out there is thinking about ``manufacturer`` points lmao?

Other then the little 68 cent plastic emblem on the cars, they are all the same. Nascar drivers and teams switch car brands like they switch their underwear. There is no loyalty.

Baynes win in the 500 was likely a one shot wonder, much like Derrike Cope, at least Cope was able to win a second race at Dover in his career. Hope he gets boned when they go back to Daytona. If he even has a ride.

Gordon had a shot to get within 40 or 50 points of the lead, now hes 80 back, good job Trevor..

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2011, 07:08:59 PM »

Yes I'm a Gordon Fan and have been for years.

Put that a side if he did that to another driver that helped him win the 500 I would have said something.

These young kids need to learn respect for others drivers. Yes dump the guy if your going for the win but to do what he did to Gordon. That is a slap in the face and what did he gain by doing this? Nothing He lost a guy that would help him if he needed a push to get a win and other drivers will remember not to take his word if they need a push.

You will see in the next restricter plate race if he has a ride, you will see how many will want to push him.

Quote from: charlie7 on October 23, 2011, 06:58:23 PM

Wes, do you actually think anyone out there is thinking about ``manufacturer`` points lmao?

Other then the little 68 cent plastic emblem on the cars, they are all the same. Nascar drivers and teams switch car brands like they switch their underwear. There is no loyalty.

Baynes win in the 500 was likely a one shot wonder, much like Derrike Cope, at least Cope was able to win a second race at Dover in his career. Hope he gets boned when they go back to Daytona. If he even has a ride.

Gordon had a shot to get within 40 or 50 points of the lead, now hes 80 back, good job Trevor..

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Dusty · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2011, 09:03:43 PM »

Yea, Like Gordon has never done that! Personally, I like what he did. It gives Gordon something else to wine about.
Charlie, Look at the name on the quarters of the 21 car.

Their job is to win races, Second is just the first looser.

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bfe · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2011, 10:06:08 PM »

Its all a product of this 2 car racing and it sucks maybe give 2 trophies instead of 1 jmo

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Gary36 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2011, 11:18:29 PM »

TSN mentioned during a yellow, just before Gordon & Bayne teamed up, that they had discussed earlier during the weekend who would push and would be up front, it seemed they had a plan.

Then TSN said, under the same caution, that Corportate Ford, or those involved in Ford Racing, were in the pits telling Ford teams to help other Ford cars. Not sure how much that had to do with it, but it was a Ford that Bayne went to help.

I do agree Gordon would be upset, especially if they talked about it earlier, and given the fact Gordon helped Bayne with the biggest win of his life, but there may have been pressure from the top, assuming Ford Racing would have that much say.

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duken · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2011, 11:21:21 PM »

This article from Jayski.com should explain it...
•Ford wants Ford drivers to draft with Fords only UPDATE?: #14-Tony Stewart [Chevy] likely will have a new drafting partner Sunday with this two-car tandem. Stewart has worked with #34-David Gilliland [Ford] in the past but didn't get to practice with him Friday. Stewart said: "I've kind of heard the Ford guys are kind of being told they have to stay with Ford guys.'' & Stewart drafted with #47-Bobby Labonte [Toyota] in the first practice and with #51-Landon Cassill [Chevy] in the second practice session.(Virginian Pilot)(10-22-2011)
UPDATE: The dictum of Ford drivers helping only other Ford drivers in Sunday's race came from Ford Racing brass and team owner Jack Roush during a meeting early in the week. In fact, Roush's loyalty to the brand is legendary. So Gilliland, who drives for Front Row, won't be on Stewart's bumper on Sunday at all. "Yeah, we aren't," Gilliland said. "It's such a tight points battle right now, and we're going to try to help the Ford guys out all we can." Apparently, Roush talked about the Ford solidarity in no uncertain terms.(Sporting News)(10-23-2011
With millions of dollars on the line, do you guys really expect anything less ? Nascar Sprint Cup racing is just WWE on ashphalt more or less . The winner is not predetermined ,but just about everything else is scripted , for the lack of a better word.

For my money, I would rather watch the Australian V8 Supercars. But, now that they are coming to race in the US ,the sponsor dollar will likely dictate as the series grows on Speed TV. So, I will enjoy them while they are still raw.

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Kahnefreak · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2011, 11:44:25 PM »

do any of you people even know for sure what went on? Or are all you people whining cause your Gordon fans? How do you know the call wasn't made above Bayne's head. Ford or the Wood brothers probably gave him the order to do so and those people are the ones who give him a car and pay him to race it. So to help Jeff Gordon or do what your team/ manufacturer asks of you? Hmmm I'd rather piss off the people who pay me to race and gave me the opportunity to even win the Daytona 500 just so I can help Jeff Gordon out for one race...you guys kill me....I'm sure Trevor did what he had to do for his career.

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #10 on:** October 24, 2011, 09:37:43 AM »

That's what racing has come to where drivers don't have a say. Put robots in the car then.

It's true the V8 Supercars was a more enjoyable race then the cup race.

The last couple of years I haven't watched, as many cup races as I used too. You have Nascar telling drivers they can't express their true emotion's. You have team owners telling drivers who they shouldn't hook up with and manufactures are saying you should only hook up with their brand?

What next Beer Sponsors will say you can't hook up with another beer sponsored car??

Didn't F1 tell a team that they can't just can't let a guy pass because it was better for this driver to finish a head of his team mate?

People keep saying here we are only saying this because we are gordon fans. I would have said something if it happened to Tony Stewart and I'm not a Stewart fan.

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charlie7 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2011, 05:34:27 PM »

Bayne should drive for HIM not for a voice in his head. Might as well pack it in and head for Europe if your gonna listen to team orders all day.

I wouldnt care if I was him and got fired for not listening. 10 Other teams would love to have him for telling FORD and the WOODS to stick it! It would be refreshing. Not to mention having millions in revenue follow you everywhere you go, because all your little die casts and shirts have DAYTONA 500 CHAMPION afixed to them. Hell Derrike cope is still making money off Earnhardts cut tire from 1990!!!

Your a Daytona 500 champion, I think you can drive for yourself. I think all the drivers should drive for themselfs, their the ones turning the wheels.

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #12 on:** October 24, 2011, 06:15:12 PM »

The thing I find funny it's all over the net. People are trying to make it seem like a Gordon Whinny thing. To be honest not sure if Gordon said anything on this.

Too many people telling the drivers what they can and can't do. If this continues it will continue to go down hill.

What I'm pissed about is it's the car manufactures telling owners and teams they have to only help push cars with there brand.

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #13 on:** October 24, 2011, 06:16:56 PM »

Quote from: charlie7 on October 24, 2011, 05:34:27 PM

I wouldnt care if I was him and got fired for not listening. 10 Other teams would love to have him for telling FORD and the WOODS to stick it!

Yeah but they wouldn't be the teams he could win with. I get what you're saying, but there's a reality. Good race car drivers are a dime a dozen now, and established teams aren't going to hire someone who flipped off his boss the first time around.

You're a young driver with a half a brain. You have one win that could possibly be called flukey, but are pretty sure you can back it up with another if you're with a good team. Your future is ahead of you. Now remember that your career has ALREADY had one setback with that spider bite (or whatever it was)

Now you're strapped in the car. You told Gordon you'd hook up with him, then you are reminded that you have a pseudo-teammate (Kenseth) that is in the thick of the chase and he needs help. You have a choice.

-Go with Gordon anyway, and risk pissing off a major racing superpower (Roush, who happpens to hold the keys to your career)....and then get yourself a rep as not being a team player. (hate it or not, NASCAR cup is a team game and has been for quite some time)

-Or you can risk pissing off Jeff Gordon, go with Kenseth like you're supposed to, help keep him in the chase, keep your bosses (who owe EVERYTHING to Ford) happy...then go over and apologize to Gordon afterward.

It's not brain surgery. Gordon will get over it.

I only hope for Bayne's sake that they don't hold his postrace tweets and stuff against him TOO much. If anything, he did the right thing on the track...and then STILL managed to annoy the guys in charge. That sucks for him.

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #14 on:** October 24, 2011, 07:37:50 PM »

Here are the tweets

@tbayne21: I'm not happy about what this has become... It's too premeditated. We should be able to go with whoever is around (us)

@tbayne21: I would have rather pulled over and finished last than tell @JeffGordonWeb I would work with him and then be strong armed into bailing

Here is reply to a pissed off fan.

@tbayne21: I agree. That's why I'm so sick about all this. I won't race restrictor plate races next year before I'm put in that situation

That is not right to put drivers in positions like that. Nascar really has to do something about this as people knew Ford was telling teams to only push ford cars.

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