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Title: Rules Meetings
Post by: Racer43 on October 21, 2011, 08:07:52 AM
I received a letter in the mail a couple weeks ago regarding the banquet and the rules meetings. I cant find it now, but I think it said late model meeting Nov 7th? There is no info on the website (that I can find) so I was wondering if anyone knows if this is the correct date. John maybe you have an idea as to when the meetings are?? Might not be a bad idea to make these times public knowledge so we have a half decent turnout at them. Thanks in advance for any info.
Cheers
Jay
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: LAKER77 on October 21, 2011, 09:23:07 AM
Good memory Jay. Nov 7th at 7pm. Middlesex rec centre in Komoka.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Racer43 on October 21, 2011, 08:57:59 PM
thank you sir
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on October 23, 2011, 08:52:45 AM
In regards to the rules meeting I think everybody should put forward that the changes made or the changes that we want should reflect what each division needs as a whole. I'm not trying to be overly critical but each division is a group and the needs of the "group" are important.
And above all the most important thing that the technical staff should consider is to develop the philosophy of "Say what your going to do and do what you say"
I don't think we need any more 11th hour rule changes
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: SS3 on October 27, 2011, 07:35:32 PM

From the Banquet invite letter...

Late Model - November 7th

Modifieds - November 9th

Super Stocks - November 14th

Trucks - November 16th

Enduro - November 21st

All meetings will be at the new Middlesex Rec Centre in Komoka, 7:00-9:00pm.

Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: streetstocker33 on October 27, 2011, 09:18:08 PM
In regards to the rules meeting I think everybody should put forward that the changes made or the changes that we want should reflect what each division needs as a whole. I'm not trying to be overly critical but each division is a group and the needs of the "group" are important.
And above all the most important thing that the technical staff should consider is to develop the philosophy of "Say what your going to do and do what you say"
I don't think we need any more 11th hour rule changes
generally it's drivers/teams input that puts the screws to the divisions, kind of got the place into the mess it's in.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on October 27, 2011, 09:33:43 PM
I agree and disagree, temperance is needed in these times. Why do i even bother? Screw it we might as well just have run what you brung and run the Late models with the Supers, might have dozen cars for next year
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: streetstocker33 on October 27, 2011, 09:53:49 PM
I agree and disagree, temperance is needed in these times. Why do i even bother? Screw it we might as well just have run what you brung and run the Late models with the Supers, might have dozen cars for next year

I thought it was run what you brung?
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: ssfan on October 28, 2011, 07:39:10 PM
Just hope tech looks further into the glass bodied cars and adds more of a weight penalty to them!
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: kcbc on October 28, 2011, 09:56:14 PM
 ??? What are you saying just come out with it and SAY IT what is your beef about them, or do you have no balls to say what's on your mind...
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: ssfan on October 29, 2011, 08:57:07 AM
glass bodies are wayyyyyyy to light and the weight penalty that they have is a joke!
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: kcbc on October 29, 2011, 03:21:25 PM
 :D  What do they weigh and where did you get your info...
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on October 30, 2011, 06:40:33 PM
Like them or not the glass bodies are the future of the sport, unless somebody comes up with a better idea. The chances of that are pretty slim so we need to work with what we have. We were told in a meeting some weight was going to get moved higher up and it did, not sure if it had the effect that was desired. It is what is, apparently a whole bunch more will be coming in so get used to the idea. I think the debate is over on that issue....I hope.
My issue is what the rules are going to be and are we apply them equally and unilaterally across the board. That means everybody is treated equally and MUST all follow the same rules. The #60 is doing it's best to put a serious run for the championship this year and were of belief that we have just as good as a chance as the next team provided the playing feel is equal.

GENERAL
The word stock shall be defined as any part for that particular make, model, and year as found in the manufactures
catalogue. Unless specifically noted all stock parts shall be mounted in both the stock location and stock position as
engineered by the manufacture. In addition to the location and mounting, only parts identified in the manufactures
catalogue for that particular make, model, and year shall be eligible. Any deviation to the above mentioned rule shall be
superseded by written updates and duly noted in the specific sub-section of the rules and in accordance with the rules.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on October 30, 2011, 07:49:55 PM
For Clarity I would like to make my position on the up coming rules meeting known.
The JWO Racing team does not have an objection with any team particular team. We are not calling anybody out on rules infractions. What we would like to see is a set of rules presented in a matter that is clear and concise with intention of unilateral enforcement. We would like to build a car with the highest regards to the rules and present said car to the Tech Team at Delaware Speedway and be sure we are in full compliance.
Having built a few cars and being involved with many more builds I can say that I would like to build the best car possible to the current rules. If the rules are generally not enforced than why bother taking the time to print them. That maybe an exaggeration but the point I'm trying to make is not.
The rules should be clear and presented in the manner that all the teams are able to take the same advantage of the rules.
K nuff said See you at the rules meeting
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: smithbarney on November 01, 2011, 03:19:38 PM
For Clarity I would like to make my position on the up coming rules meeting known.
The JWO Racing team does not have an objection with any team particular team. We are not calling anybody out on rules infractions. What we would like to see is a set of rules presented in a matter that is clear and concise with intention of unilateral enforcement. We would like to build a car with the highest regards to the rules and present said car to the Tech Team at Delaware Speedway and be sure we are in full compliance.
Having built a few cars and being involved with many more builds I can say that I would like to build the best car possible to the current rules. If the rules are generally not enforced than why bother taking the time to print them. That maybe an exaggeration but the point I'm trying to make is not.
The rules should be clear and presented in the manner that all the teams are able to take the same advantage of the rules.
K nuff said See you at the rules meeting


Tell us what you really mean?
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: can_kev on November 02, 2011, 04:50:57 PM
From Delaware speedways website

Nov 2, 2011

Attention Competitors:

Driver’s meetings originally scheduled for later this month have been postponed.  These meetings are planned to be rescheduled before Christmas.  We apologize for any inconvenience.  Updates to these dates will be announced through the speedway website.

Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: smithbarney on November 02, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
From Delaware speedways website

Nov 2, 2011

Attention Competitors:

Driver’s meetings originally scheduled for later this month have been postponed.  These meetings are planned to be rescheduled before Christmas.  We apologize for any inconvenience.  Updates to these dates will be announced through the speedway website.


Must be serious to pull the plug at this late date?


Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: racingwrench on November 03, 2011, 12:15:00 PM
Ran out of crayons and magic erasers for the rule books
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 03, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
For Clarity I would like to make my position on the up coming rules meeting known.
The JWO Racing team does not have an objection with any team particular team. We are not calling anybody out on rules infractions. What we would like to see is a set of rules presented in a matter that is clear and concise with intention of unilateral enforcement. We would like to build a car with the highest regards to the rules and present said car to the Tech Team at Delaware Speedway and be sure we are in full compliance.
Having built a few cars and being involved with many more builds I can say that I would like to build the best car possible to the current rules. If the rules are generally not enforced than why bother taking the time to print them. That maybe an exaggeration but the point I'm trying to make is not.
The rules should be clear and presented in the manner that all the teams are able to take the same advantage of the rules.
K nuff said See you at the rules meeting


Tell us what you really mean?

Pretty clear no? lol
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 03, 2011, 01:06:13 PM
The postponement must be a changing of the guard, I volunteer to be part of the technical review committee
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: smithbarney on November 03, 2011, 02:59:50 PM
The postponement must be a changing of the guard, I volunteer to be part of the technical review committee

So who is the new gaurd??? 

I thought the old gaurd was happy???

Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: kcbc on November 03, 2011, 09:11:42 PM
 ;) Big things coming down the pipe line....
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 04, 2011, 09:05:12 AM
I guessed as much...My name is Billy Tucker Not Silly....
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: smithbarney on November 04, 2011, 01:24:00 PM
;) Big things coming down the pipe line....

Well open up the pipe and let it flow...


Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: racingwrench on November 04, 2011, 04:35:42 PM
I hope its not like the big things I send down the pipe every morning :)
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: streetstocker33 on November 04, 2011, 06:28:11 PM
I hope its not like the big things I send down the pipe every morning :)
That's what i'd be betting on
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: murray on November 05, 2011, 12:45:19 PM
how much does a super stock ford have to weigh at delaware??
it has steel body , auto trans ,rear drum brakes, 351 W with headers ??
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: LMFAN on November 05, 2011, 02:29:30 PM
Not a huge fan of rumours but here a good one.
I hear the racetrack is Sold and maybe Racing Habits can shine some light on it.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: can_kev on November 05, 2011, 02:52:41 PM
how much does a super stock ford have to weigh at delaware??
it has steel body , auto trans ,rear drum brakes, 351 W with headers ??

from delawares rule book

33. TRANSMISSION (MANUAL)
5. No automatics allowed


Built engine 3300 lbs
Left side maximum 55%
Crate Engine  3200 lbs
Left side maximum 55%
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 06, 2011, 06:48:02 AM
Do yourself a favour and ditch the automatic
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: 33racer on November 06, 2011, 09:48:04 AM
Delaware Sold?? anybody know anymore about this?
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 06, 2011, 10:13:34 AM
I haven't heard anything
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jcrashm2 on November 06, 2011, 10:34:42 AM
could be the reason the meeting was postponed?
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: DB1 on November 06, 2011, 04:27:23 PM
They are transplanting Bristol to Delaware and using the Golf course for Parking .....MAN....People and their RUMORS !!!
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: tigeraid on November 07, 2011, 11:28:13 AM
They are transplanting Bristol to Delaware and using the Golf course for Parking .....MAN....People and their RUMORS !!!

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Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: racingwrench on November 07, 2011, 12:33:32 PM
Maybe mc coll decided owning the tech department wasn't enough and bought the whole track
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: smithbarney on November 07, 2011, 04:58:49 PM
Maybe mc coll decided owning the tech department wasn't enough and bought the whole track


OUCH...

Maybe we all will hear something by June on the expansion of the golf course...

Hope no one went ahead and ordered a new car

Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 14, 2011, 10:09:39 AM
Tick Tock Tick Tock, I'd really love to be presenting potential sponsor with pictures of the car, a schedule, something...anything
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: racingwrench on November 14, 2011, 02:35:09 PM
Jim just present smoke and mirrors it works at the track
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: spindoctor on November 14, 2011, 04:34:37 PM
the message about the postponement is ambiguous, it says "These meetings are planned to be rescheduled before Christmas", which doesn't necessarily mean they will be taking place before Christmas.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: racingwrench on November 14, 2011, 09:08:55 PM
Or that it will be a meeting instead of a declaration to either like it or lump it.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: smithbarney on November 15, 2011, 11:08:56 AM
Or that it will be a meeting instead of a declaration to either like it or lump it.

To announce the new race director?
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: racingwrench on November 15, 2011, 06:52:50 PM
Hopefully more than just a race director
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: kcbc on November 15, 2011, 07:21:31 PM
 :-\ If Delaware management is there Please give us all some reassurance that at least it's going to be some what business as usual ,as per- track opening next year ,we all have things at stake here , cars to be built,sponsors to chase,and the list goes on, not saying any thing hurts alot of people in many ways,guys are trying to decided to build new cars or not and if they wait to long they will not and that could hurt the builders and their lively hood,I know these things take time to work them self's out BUT DON'T WAIT TO LONG We all have alot at stake.   Just my 2cents  :-\
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: murray on November 15, 2011, 08:12:41 PM
the current shock rule for LM states the shocks must only cost $ 150 dollars each.. So what manufacture of shocks are the cars running ??
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: streetstocker33 on November 15, 2011, 08:19:51 PM
the current shock rule for LM states the shocks must only cost $ 150 dollars each.. So what manufacture of shocks are the cars running ??
most guys are on pros, if not all
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: smithbarney on November 15, 2011, 08:31:11 PM
:-\ If Delaware management is there Please give us all some reassurance that at least it's going to be some what business as usual ,as per- track opening next year ,we all have things at stake here , cars to be built,sponsors to chase,and the list goes on, not saying any thing hurts alot of people in many ways,guys are trying to decided to build new cars or not and if they wait to long they will not and that could hurt the builders and their lively hood,I know these things take time to work them self's out BUT DON'T WAIT TO LONG We all have alot at stake.   Just my 2cents  :-\

Very well put!!!

Come on John start typing, or are you no longer there?
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: streetstocker33 on November 15, 2011, 08:39:14 PM
Even if John's in the loop of what's going on I highly doubt he'd be able to share any details.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 15, 2011, 10:35:08 PM
Just freeze the dam rules with some clean up, this is getting ridiculous. The other post I threw up there was just for example but you'd get the drift anyway. 
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: smithbarney on November 16, 2011, 08:14:18 AM
Just freeze the dam rules with some clean up, this is getting ridiculous. The other post I threw up there was just for example but you'd get the drift anyway. 

Official Announcement Delaware Speedway
Da Juice (sometimes known as master of rebuilding an entire superstock Camaro 399 times in a single season) is now Technical / Competition and Chief of Keep em in Line Director at Delaware Speedway for ALL divisions, and ages. He's also the official marketing (fan ass kisser) go boy and announcer for the Speedway. In his SPARE time he will be temporary clean up boy (lawn cutter, garbage collector that sort of thing) for the entire property.

Please Welcome JWORACING to his new job!


Oh wait...did I speak too soon? :) :) :) :):):)


PERFECT....NOW WILL HE ACCEPT THE CHALLANGE? LOL.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Racer43 on November 18, 2011, 01:37:19 PM
another week passes without any news??? Its getting bad when you have sponsors calling you asking what is going on with Delaware. I sure hope the powers that be realize there is some urgency to put out a press release. This is the time of year most of us sponsor hunt!!
What about the rumour, specials only next year?? Is there any truth to this one? Might not be a bad idea, but it would be nice to know so we can plan our season accordingly. 
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: raceguy on November 18, 2011, 02:24:57 PM
I hope Delaware listens to you Jay and sends out some sort of message soon.  I know it must be a big change to be silent this long!  I really, really hope the "Specials Only" is not an option. I would lose interest quickly in that.   look what happened to Cayuga when they went "Specials Only".  I think you really lose the hardcore fan as they find racing elsewhere on a weekly basis.  The longer they wait and worse the rumours get.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: raybetterevilkenevil on November 18, 2011, 06:39:14 PM
I hope Delaware listens to you Jay and sends out some sort of message soon.  I know it must be a big change to be silent this long!  I really, really hope the "Specials Only" is not an option. I would lose interest quickly in that.   look what happened to Cayuga when they went "Specials Only".  I think you really lose the hardcore fan as they find racing elsewhere on a weekly basis.  The longer they wait and worse the rumours get.
Heres my guess..run 10 this year 7 next year 5 year after......before you know it its gone....GOLF course......golfers dont like NOISE OF RACE CARS.....guy that owns delaware owns the golf course .........BYE BYE DELLY
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Racer43 on November 18, 2011, 09:15:13 PM

Heres my guess..run 10 this year 7 next year 5 year after......before you know it its gone....GOLF course......golfers dont like NOISE OF RACE CARS.....guy that owns delaware owns the golf course .........BYE BYE DELLY
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Thanks for registering and giving your input..... very insightful input that it is?
I assume you golf at the Oaks, I would like to apologize for interupting your round on Friday nights??
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 18, 2011, 11:18:29 PM
I heard Glenn Styres bought it and he's bringing in the dump trucks
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: ministock19 on November 18, 2011, 11:27:57 PM
I guess that is one way to avoid repaving :D
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: racerfan22 on November 19, 2011, 08:36:41 AM
Well here we go again another year of uncertainty is it new owners or do owners who own land do something else as yes they do own the land and sure hope track does stay but with economy on down slide & yes everybody has to agree that crowds this year were not that good & only times were specials (ie: Busch appreaence,super modifieds,Nascar modifieds,NCTS) crowds were good as for averages from other years well not sure but if was betting man would say aveage was down as regular shows brought those averages down.With car counts down in all groups yes people would find something else to do on Friday nights as when only 10 -12 Late models would show up & only approx 10 modifieds & these 2 divisions being your main two & SS & Trucks as well & on Saturdays enduros but that groups counts were down & yes my opinion some of those fast cars show have been told to move up as these cars (ie 64,39,38,to name a few ) & that is another story but the main one here is
1) is there new owners of track
2) what type of schelude
These are the 2 main ones as these are the most important to drivers & owners of cars who race at Delaware as Jay put it drivers need to know as they have to start looking for sponsors of their car or cars.Remember no sponsors means no cars means no racing !!.
Do owners go to Specials only as mentioned before sure hope not as was said before Cayuga went that way & now see what they are today a rotting track out in the middle of no where rotting away to nothing.Also strange as in other years there were xmas specials & season ticket sales & do not think they have been announced as if everything was a go full steam ahead these would be out I presume & check 2012 scheludes of  traveling series (Ie Isma,Nascar modifieds & Ncts ) if you see Delawares name great means they are coming if not well tells you something & probably not good .I hope this track keeps going for many ,many years to come but if true new owners great new blood is great so lets hope announcement comes out soon as yes these drivers ,owners & yes even fans can plan for the year 2012 of racing.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: 33racer on November 19, 2011, 10:10:19 AM
I really hope that they don't go to specials only. The way I see it is if they would just keep the rules the same for a few years, maybe the cars would come back.  Rule changes cost money, it already costs enough to race for a year without having to buy new parts just for the rule change.  Tony always had decent car counts because the rules never changed. Maybe for the good or not at least everyone knew the rules and what it was going to cost you. Delaware, we need to know whats going on.  If we can't tell marketing partners what is going on why would they invest in our race teams and Delaware speedway, after all its like a partnership. With out us Delaware has no show and without them we don't have a place to put on a show. We need to work together and drop the secrets its getting a little old.  I am trying to put together a full 2012 season and its impossible if the other partner won't tell me what the plan is. "Delaware!!"
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Shadowracer on November 19, 2011, 10:58:52 AM
WTF? Rumor of a possible ownership change and suddenly the sky is falling? Gimme a break.

Not saying nothing's up, but how about a reality check here? If someone knows something for sure, then pipe up. If its all just rumor, then take it with a grain of salt.

Seriously guys.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: 33racer on November 19, 2011, 11:39:22 AM
You know what the funny thing is Shadow! people that actually have a financially interest ( ie car owner and team owner)  do care, and can't take so much talk with no response from Delaware with grain of salt. Jay is right with, we are looking for sponsorship, and when sponsors are asking why would we commit, when no one know whats going on, Kinda makes things hard. Just sayin!
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Racer43 on November 19, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
I dont think its just rumor that there is an ownership change in the works. There is!!! the point is why not make an announcment about it and put all the other rumors to rest?? Most could care less who actually owns the place, just that there is actually going to be a regular race program. Your right Trev, just take it with a grain of salt seems like the easy thing to do. However when your trying to put the finances in place to run a full season next year, it sure would help to know that there is going to be one. Its tough enough to get the funds to run a full season out of prospective marketing partners when the ship is sailing along smoothly. This unsettled situation that we have now makes it even tougher.
I have a feeling we will hear something next week?? so tighten those belts and get up on the wheel we're goin green soon?? Hopefully...


Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: shifty333 on November 19, 2011, 01:37:44 PM
http://www.ismasupers.com/schedule.html (http://www.ismasupers.com/schedule.html)

the track will be open for at least 2 days
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Racer43 on November 19, 2011, 02:07:24 PM
there is no doubt the track will open..... how many events will it open for is the question. will the late models run 18, 12 or 3 events? How about the SS, Trucks and Mods? Is there going to be a Bone stock division, Enduro Saturdays are still a go? Will the track be Nascar sanctioned? Any rule changes?
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 19, 2011, 02:31:25 PM
Scheduled dates on another website don't mean Jack
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: racerfan22 on November 19, 2011, 03:51:25 PM
Reguarding as you put it jw those dates mean jack well when ISMA or any other touring series posts their schelude they are generally right on when posting .As for Jays comments yes he is right how many races .how many divisions & how many specials .Sure would like to see a full schelude for all divisions plus specials but with way economy going & yes car counts & yes they were low last year & looks like possible again for next year 2012 as well as the longer it takes to tell the racing people what is going on the harder it will be to get cars coming back.Hopefully things can get set not soon but fast If betting man would say specials only which means will be a lot of race cars & trucks hanging around Hopefully not but good chance as if looking at full schelude they would of had drivers meeting & rules by now but they cancelled until sometime in Dec. Lets keep fingers crossed for sucessful conclusion to this As The Track Turns :)
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Just_A_Fan on November 19, 2011, 05:31:23 PM
I wouldn't read too much into the delayed driver's meetings. If I recall correctly, for years they weren't held until January/February.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 19, 2011, 07:34:01 PM
Well last year we had them later in the offseason and they were rewritten in march so waht difference does it make?
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: justconfused on November 20, 2011, 10:43:15 AM
here's a thought maybe Arlen sold it back to mike spivak cause Arlen lost to much money and now the spivaks can do anything with it like turn it in to dirt track but it should stay a asphalt track but turn it back to the original lay out it was a quarter mile track back in the day so that is my thought on this topic it would really suck to see the track go a way
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Dougy109 on November 20, 2011, 02:04:51 PM
Jeez, this speculating is wayy out of hand. Seriously, the track has been through worse. I know, they are going to race tricycles full time, or something rediculous!!
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: John on November 20, 2011, 02:44:57 PM
While I am known for my longer statements on these boards, I’ll keep this one short:

I am sorry I haven’t / won’t be able to respond with greater details, but rumor mill: slow yourself down.  This can be especially difficult in the age of instant communication and instant information.  I cannot guarantee when you will have the detailed information you are looking for but sit tight, things are fine.

-John
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: smithbarney on November 20, 2011, 03:05:39 PM
While I am known for my longer statements on these boards, I’ll keep this one short:

I am sorry I haven’t / won’t be able to respond with greater details, but rumor mill: slow yourself down.  This can be especially difficult in the age of instant communication and instant information.  I cannot guarantee when you will have the detailed information you are looking for but sit tight, things are fine.

-John

Are you still an employee, and if all is so well why don't we hear anything?
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: John on November 20, 2011, 03:41:42 PM
Are you still an employee, and if all is so well why don't we hear anything?

In any business there are many reasons why you would not hear anything.  In motorsports, we seem to jump to the idea of a catastrophe quite quickly.   I encourage the community to avoid this temptation.

-John
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: shifty333 on November 20, 2011, 04:53:25 PM
Well last year we had them later in the offseason and they were rewritten in march so waht difference does it make?

then why spend your days on here twiddling your thumbs?
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Shadowracer on November 20, 2011, 04:59:42 PM
Are you still an employee, and if all is so well why don't we hear anything?

Do ya really think he'd be posting like this if he wasn't?

This whole thing is like the Kevin/Amy debacle about 5 years ago. The sky was supposed to fall then too. Surprise. It didn't.

I have no earthly idea why you wouldn't just carry on business as usual until you hear otherwise. If it was me I'd maybe hold off IF I was building a brand new car....but how many guys are really doing that?

And if you're taking rumor and hearsay, and then taking it and TELLING your sponsors that there might be potential issues at the speedway before anything's even been announced...welll, you dug that hole yourself.

Sorry to be blunt. But this thread is messed up.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: raceguy on November 20, 2011, 05:58:17 PM
thanks John for the words of calm. I am sure when all the details are ironed out, the masses will hear.  It's not unlike any other business dealings.  The thread did get a little carried away, I agree, but it's because Delaware has very passionate fans and drivers.  The thought of any changes at the track scares us all.  We never ever want to see it go away. 
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: shifty333 on November 20, 2011, 07:21:47 PM
Are you still an employee, and if all is so well why don't we hear anything?

Do ya really think he'd be posting like this if he wasn't?

This whole thing is like the Kevin/Amy debacle about 5 years ago. The sky was supposed to fall then too. Surprise. It didn't.

I have no earthly idea why you wouldn't just carry on business as usual until you hear otherwise. If it was me I'd maybe hold off IF I was building a brand new car....but how many guys are really doing that?

And if you're taking rumor and hearsay, and then taking it and TELLING your sponsors that there might be potential issues at the speedway before anything's even been announced...welll, you dug that hole yourself.

Sorry to be blunt. But this thread is messed up.


You might be surprised how many new Super Stocks are being built or having complete overhauls 
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: streetstocker33 on November 20, 2011, 08:43:17 PM
Are you still an employee, and if all is so well why don't we hear anything?

Do ya really think he'd be posting like this if he wasn't?

This whole thing is like the Kevin/Amy debacle about 5 years ago. The sky was supposed to fall then too. Surprise. It didn't.

I have no earthly idea why you wouldn't just carry on business as usual until you hear otherwise. If it was me I'd maybe hold off IF I was building a brand new car....but how many guys are really doing that?

And if you're taking rumor and hearsay, and then taking it and TELLING your sponsors that there might be potential issues at the speedway before anything's even been announced...welll, you dug that hole yourself.

Sorry to be blunt. But this thread is messed up.


You might be surprised how many new Super Stocks are being built or having complete overhauls 
I know it's slowing down work I have to do for other teams this winter, not too pumped about a spring thrash.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: jworacing on November 21, 2011, 10:43:23 AM
My biggest concern is changes to the fabrication rules, I have heard murmurs of a 58" wide cage, I would like to build a new car, how ever it takes time and money and sponsor involvement is good. A schedule is nice as well. So in short some of the rumors i hear last year were just that while others were not.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Molson on November 21, 2011, 05:22:01 PM
I guess this answers a lot of questions .....




The management of Delaware Speedway would like to announce that Ron Sheridan will not be renewing his contract as Director of Race Operation for the 2012 season. We would like to wish Ron well in his future endeavors and thank him for his  hard work and tireless efforts during the 2011 season.

Please direct all calls related to the race program to the track office. A track representative will be happy to help you where  and when possible.

Delaware Speedway management.
   


https://delawarespeedway.com/ron-sheridan-moving-on

Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Dougy109 on November 21, 2011, 05:40:20 PM
That has got to be one of the worst positions to hold, hated and rarely loved in my opinion. Thanks Ron for giving a year in, and hope your back racing.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: streetstocker33 on November 21, 2011, 06:06:57 PM
I guess this answers a lot of questions .....




The management of Delaware Speedway would like to announce that Ron Sheridan will not be renewing his contract as Director of Race Operation for the 2012 season. We would like to wish Ron well in his future endeavors and thank him for his  hard work and tireless efforts during the 2011 season.

Please direct all calls related to the race program to the track office. A track representative will be happy to help you where  and when possible.

Delaware Speedway management.
   


https://delawarespeedway.com/ron-sheridan-moving-on


nah, everybody has assumed that was coming for a while now, there's more going on.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: racerfan22 on November 21, 2011, 07:55:33 PM
Street Stocker 33 yea probably so as question would you need a race director if there is specials only as all travelling series have there own directors just food for thought .Will be intersting for sure as message at end said Please direct all calls related to race program to track office and a track rep will be happy to help you where & when possible . Big question where & when sound like Cayuga all over & everytbody knows what happened there .Hope not but anything possible !!!
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: LMFAN on November 22, 2011, 09:12:00 AM
so Delly threw us a bone.
Wow one of the worst kept secrets ever.
I get that the deal for the new 50 percent owner stake is still in the final stages and they can't or won't tell us whats up.
Thats business and until its done I can see why the Hush Hush however just let guys know you will or will not be a Nascar sanctioned track that assures them they will be running 18 times ( The Min races needed to be Nascar Sanctioned)
Guys can sell there programs knowing that.
As for rules it sucks but what can you do.
as for Comments about in the Tony era meetings werent till later has no bearing.
Nothing ever changed when Tony was at the Helm so we always knew there would be a season of 15 - 18 events and the rule changes were going to be nothing unless he opened a new business IE Fibreglass shop.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: murray on November 25, 2011, 05:22:41 PM
I tried calling delaware this week but no answer..can some one tell me if the LM cars are allowed penske or bilstein shocks or just pros??
thanks
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: Racer43 on November 25, 2011, 05:39:38 PM
any shock under a buck and a half I believe the rule states. Check the rules, its in there.
Title: Re: Rules Meetings
Post by: smithbarney on November 28, 2011, 08:43:04 PM
I tried calling delaware this week but no answer..can some one tell me if the LM cars are allowed penske or bilstein shocks or just pros??
thanks

Jay is correct

7.   Shocks: Only one shock per corner permitted. Approved steel-bodied gas race shocks only. Retail value $150 CDN maximum per shock. No external adjustments, remote, air or aluminum shocks. No dynoing or rebuilding at the speedway without the express written consent of Race Director.

2011