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NASCAR Pinty’s Series => NASCAR Pinty’s Series => General => Topic started by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 10, 2007, 06:22:52 PM

Title: Canadian Tire
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 10, 2007, 06:22:52 PM
I own the domain name Canadiantireseris.com It is a name Canadian Tire series and that is all it is but they want to try and threaten me with legal action. I will post a copy of the letter hear when I scan it. This looks bad for a company that is sponsoring  a series and they don't even have a link to there on site.

At lease Nascar wanted to talk not like this guy saying we are going to court I said he will pay a transfer fee and doesn't seem Like he wants to. It is simple contact me and talk don't threaten me.

I find it funny how people know they are going to sponsor something but they don't get a domain name. This is not used for profit and the series is called Nascar Canadian Tire Series and not Canadiantireseries. I'm a canadian and tire is a common word and so series. On a series of canadian tires is against the law. I guess being Canadian is too. SO in a sentance you cant have Canadian Tire in it is that what they are trying to say and this time i'm not mad or anything like it I just find it strange that a company like them as I can use the name tries to do this. I can see if the series was called canadian tire series but its not as the log clearly shows it is Nascar as the big name and the site they have for it is nascarcanadiantireseries.com & CA. Please explain people are going say we can't say good year as Good Year owns the right to it common we can let people take away every day words from us. I could se if I opened a big box store and started selling what they are selling

They didn't even send a registered letter to me to serve it they did it by the domain registar. I thought I need to sign for it???
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: SRAMA on April 10, 2007, 07:01:54 PM
I wouldn't fight it.

I would simply rregister and start using      NASCAR Crappy tire series

SRAMA
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 10, 2007, 07:15:21 PM
The letter is posted at http://www.canadiantiresseries.com

The letter was addressed to my registrar not even me they forwarded a pdf file to me too day and I can't say if anything was edit and I called the guy and he told me they are comming after me for using it. I told him to pay a transfer fee and really didn't get an answer from him.

I don't even have to talk to him. This is a US domain name and if you read up on it it is not used for profit and it is commonly used words. I'm going to copy rightRedPurple as a company and then go after anyone that has redpurple in there name.

Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: NealeRacing on April 10, 2007, 08:21:53 PM
maybe canadian tire should focus on sueing wal mart instead. i read an ad in the toronto sun about ranger and tagliani with wal mart and proctor and gamble ans once again called the series, "NASCAr Canada Series". Any one can clearly realize that it was done to not give free advertisement to Canadian tire, by its Competitor WalMart. It is not the first time they have called it the Canada Series as well. At least Canadian Tire has been involved with canadian racing. WaMart is just comign in now.

I do have one question though... why did you register canadian tire series as a domain. were you intending to sell it to Canadian Tire or nascar to make money? That seems like a smart thign to do actually
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: NealeRacing on April 10, 2007, 08:24:32 PM
i think Canadian Tire has a right to sue you though as I think it is infringement... Ive taken a bit of copy right law before. I would consult a legal person though to find out whether its worth doing anything
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: broadway on April 10, 2007, 09:53:56 PM
Man you have got big ones lol  but good for you. Maybe the management team from Power Water  Grizzly Heads and  (don't) Go Racing are on the board of governor's .If they spent as much time worrying about the series as they spend worrying about you then it would be credible, thus far it really is absurd .I heard Canadian Tire called Nascar about it and they were told to take a hike "we are busy with a schedule issue"
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 10, 2007, 09:56:40 PM
Nope how can they sue for two common words. Canadian and Tire. read this site http://www.dnjournal.com/legal/sl-genericdomains.htm


I could careless and I don't shop at crappy tire before this anyways as they are a bunch off crooks and don't care what their franchises do. I had a problem when with my car and paid 600 to fix and it was never fixed and the head office said I had to deal with the store I made huge complaint with a company they use to make complaints and no one called me back they are just selling a franchise can could careless about you.

Support them all you like but I don't and never will as they use bully tactics.

You have too be doing it in bad faith and I never contacted them for money nor was the site in use. So now they want to use it for what it is the NASCAR series not theirs.

Looks bad on them they don't even have a like on the Nascarcanadiantireseries web site they should worry more about that but they want to fight about little things.

Remember there is a lot of other big box stores selling the same stuff they sell so keep pissing people off like you do and you wont have customers and I can say this as this is about the bad service I got at there Dundas stores the people in the automotive won't even get the manager when you ask for one and told me to go find one. Great customer service I'm from a retail background and If I said this to a customer I would have been told to look for e new job.

They can say what they want this will hurt them more then it does me as the names are just sitting there but they are getting bad press over this. They could have been nice about it at least NASCAR worked with me and we did it the right way. Yes I was pissed about the way they went after the cascaronline.com site that was the big issue as I owned that for many years.

Oh well I'm not telling you too not shop at their stores I just choose not to and I can do that if I like.

Also I have owned the site since dec 2006 and it has 2 hits on it to date.



Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 10, 2007, 10:19:22 PM
I forgot to metion I own a domain name called tireseries.com and it is also used to list manufactures that sell Canadian Tire makers and resellers. SO mamybe they sould come after this as well. Boy they should find out what they names is used for before they sick the dogs after me.

I took down the tires series site and copying it over to the site that was used as a forwarding to it. So read up people and tell em I'm not allowed to tell people where canadian tire maufatures and or who sells them?


Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: the_fan on April 10, 2007, 10:23:59 PM
I hate to say it, but Canadian Tire can take legal action over likeness rights. You are right, Canadian is a common word and so is Tire, but when you put them together they arent common words...its a brand name, "Canadian Tire"

And I see your point totally, and dont think that Im out to be the bad guy or anything, but the best advice that I can think of would be to just give up the domain. Is something so trivial really worth the breath? Especially when your dealing with a company that seemingly has more money than brains.

Every point you have made has a certian amount of truth to it, but Im pretty sure they could find ways around it. I mean really - they find ways around selling you junk and charging an arm and a leg to install it, so Im guessing that this is just "small potatoes".

Good luck to you if you do try to fight it, but I honestly dont see you getting too far, C.T. just has way too much money and influence, if they want it bad enough...they will probably get it.
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: Mobil1fan on April 10, 2007, 10:31:29 PM
Nope how can they sue for two common words. Canadian and Tire. read this site http://www.dnjournal.com/legal/sl-genericdomains.htm


I could careless and I don't shop at crappy tire before this anyways as they are a bunch off crooks and don't care what their franchises do. I had a problem when with my car and paid 600 to fix and it was never fixed and the head office said I had to deal with the store I made huge complaint with a company they use to make complaints and no one called me back they are just selling a franchise can could careless about you.

Support them all you like but I don't and never will as they use bully tactics.

You have too be doing it in bad faith and I never contacted them for money nor was the site in use. So now they want to use it for what it is the NASCAR series not theirs.

Looks bad on them they don't even have a like on the Nascarcanadiantireseries web site they should worry more about that but they want to fight about little things.

Remember there is a lot of other big box stores selling the same stuff they sell so keep pissing people off like you do and you wont have customers and I can say this as this is about the bad service I got at there Dundas stores the people in the automotive won't even get the manager when you ask for one and told me to go find one. Great customer service I'm from a retail background and If I said this to a customer I would have been told to look for e new job.

They can say what they want this will hurt them more then it does me as the names are just sitting there but they are getting bad press over this. They could have been nice about it at least NASCAR worked with me and we did it the right way. Yes I was pissed about the way they went after the cascaronline.com site that was the big issue as I owned that for many years.

Oh well I'm not telling you too not shop at their stores I just choose not to and I can do that if I like.

Also I have owned the site since dec 2006 and it has 2 hits on it to date.






Did you mean the Dundas Street store, or the store in Dundas?
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 10, 2007, 11:33:23 PM
Dundas street store. The said they fixed a gas tank leak and they checked everything and nothing else need replacing IE breaklines I still smelled gas from the car and the guy said it was most likely the put of gas was there on the parking spot nothing to worry about and 2 months later I noticed a huge puddle of gas under the car hard to tell in winter months as it was wet out side. I could have been killed or had a big problem as the two people that park next to my spot smoke. Canadian Tire Store and head office did nothing.

The marked on the bill unsafe to drive but refused to fix the car and told me I should go to another store as they wanted another 1200+ dollars for something they said they fixed 2 months ago. They have a 90 warrantee but said it was something new and head office said I should go to another store and maybe they can give me a discount on the repairs.

They did do nothing they just sell franchises the answer was go to another Canadian tire store when they mare on the invoice car is unsafe to drive?? What the hell is that.

They brought my car into the garage a second time when I told them not to touch it so who nows what they did when they brought it back it. I told them to leave the car alone as I don't want them touching but when I got back to the store they had it on the hoist again. You tell me what they were up to. A bunch of crooks.

Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: RDRacing on April 10, 2007, 11:53:04 PM
You would think that CT would have more to worry about with NO schedule, No rules, No website links from Nascar to CT on the website, and the other issues that are arising with the lack of information coming from NASCAR about the series.  Oh well, maybe CT is afraid of Nascar, and need to take out some frustration on the little guy.
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: 22fan on April 10, 2007, 11:59:58 PM
Dundas street store. The said they fixed a gas tank leak and they checked everything and nothing else need replacing IE breaklines I still smelled gas from the car and the guy said it was most likely the put of gas was there on the parking spot nothing to worry about and 2 months later I noticed a huge puddle of gas under the car hard to tell in winter months as it was wet out side. I could have been killed or had a big problem as the two people that park next to my spot smoke. Canadian Tire Store and head office did nothing.

The marked on the bill unsafe to drive but refused to fix the car and told me I should go to another store as they wanted another 1200+ dollars for something they said they fixed 2 months ago. They have a 90 warrantee but said it was something new and head office said I should go to another store and maybe they can give me a discount on the repairs.

They did do nothing they just sell franchises the answer was go to another Canadian tire store when they mare on the invoice car is unsafe to drive?? What the hell is that.

They brought my car into the garage a second time when I told them not to touch it so who nows what they did when they brought it back it. I told them to leave the car alone as I don't want them touching but when I got back to the store they had it on the hoist again. You tell me what they were up to. A bunch of crooks.



Crackhead Tire has to be the utter worst place for anything automotive. I've had so many bad dealings with my local store (St.Ratford), that I'll spend the extra money at Car Quest, just to ensure I'm getting exactly what I need.
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: John on April 11, 2007, 12:26:41 AM
Didn't we already talk about this less than half a year ago? ???  Evan, I thought you unloaded all the unused domains to avoid future disputes such as this?
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 11, 2007, 01:40:25 AM
it has nothing to do with Nascars series. They are looking for a site now when does the race season start?? I gave nascar all their names and we are cool.

You can't have a site that list Canadian tire manufactures and reseller of tire made in Canada??? I'm not selling anything and Canadian tire manufactures, resellers and installers that is not again the law to do so what they are going to tell me I can't use Canadian tire in a sentence that is crazy. I also own a site called tireseries.com which I just forwarded to this site when we revamp it. SO if they use canadiantireseries.com and I own tireseries.com can I sue them for using the words tireseries in there domain name???? that is BS. Have I ever promoted this site to yo and ask you to use it? Did anyone even Know I owned it???? They Lawyer didn't even know it was mine as he threatened the privacy domain company name?? The letter wasn't even addressed to me. SO they are not suing me but I'm sure they will send it again tomorrow as they read the site.

They are the ones that lose as I told him I would turn over the sites but I'm not paying the transfer fees and pay me for the time to do this and trust me I never as for crazy money as most would it is a rate I charge my customers if I was to do this for them. At least with nascar they worked with me and Ya I was pissed at the Cascaronline part that was the big part of the problem I had with Nascar.

But to common words like Canadian Tire why not got to this site

http://www.carmodifier.com/default.asp?Action=displayTireSize&vendorID=116&tireID=149&tireCharID=16747 in the description in the says your Canadian Tire & wheel experts. Why doesn't CT go after him?? I will tell you why as you can use Canadian and Tire and not be referring to them even though when you search for Canadian Tire that site shows. How can you copyright to common words that are used all the time I can see if I was a big box store selling what they sell I would understand. This is a directory for people looking for Canadian tire manufactures and reseller and tire installers in Canada. Everyone close you business down if you are in this field as Canadian Tire owns them two words. They would be pissed even if it was canadian-tire-series.com even though it is broken up and the site can be a guy selling a series of series of Canadian tires and selling them. See what I mean. I can also understand If I called them and said I got this name call me back with a price you are willing to pay and that never happened.

So they can be nice and talk to me as I'm person and not demand me to do things when you haven't sent me an official legal letter. I was nice and called to see what they had to say and this guy started with the mumble jumbo legal terms and tried to scare me. People forget I have been in computer for a long time and I have seen a lot of these cases and yes the little guy can win a guy had a site called rollerblades.com and a comany owns the trademark for it but they lost as this guy ran a hobby site as he liked roller blading and he wasn't competing with them or even selling any thing.

Company's are so stupid they pay lawyers tons of money to right the letter, now he has to another one and he spoke to me on the phone he billed them for that and all they had to do is call me up and ask me what the site is about and say we want the name and we will handle the transfer fees they are most likely out 650 - 1500 for this lawyers service and yes I know who they are and I know who he is

He worked on a case where he won for Canadian tire as the guy opened a site called crappytire.com as we all know it as we us that name all the time but this guy nick was copying there pages to his site and adding crappytire on it so yes that is in bad faith and yes the will take away the domain as you are also stealing copywrite stuff. here is the link

http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2001/d2001-0383.html By the way Canadian Tire still keeps that name crappytire.com it leads nowhere I would have forwarded the name to the main site.

John (Lawyer for Canadian tire) also as written article on people that buy domains to hold the company for ransom to get there domain name back.

I will say it again if I was selling tires or stuff they sell yes nail me as that is in bad faith. The guy with the crappytire.com could have kept that name and use it to bad mouth Canadian tire and there is nothing they could have done as he has the right to say what he feels about the company and he could have got other to do this as well no laws are being broken.

Look at this site and why doesn't walmart get it taken down as it is using their trademark http://walmartsux.com/ Freedom of speech he isn't selling a damn thing

here are some more

http://www.bestbuysux.org/
http://walmart-blows.com/
http://www.homedepotsucks.com/
http://www.target-sucks.com/


What is going on with these site why can they keep the trademark names in the domain name??????

I read an article at Workopolis here is the link

http://cnib.workopolis.com/servlet/Content/qprinter/20060426/TQLIMA126


Here is the first site I get when I search what they told me. The web is a powerfull tool and the company's know it now and with blogs popping up all over you see more and more company bashing sites.

http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59765&whichpage=2
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: AutoAssembler on April 11, 2007, 02:00:51 AM
i think Canadian Tire has a right to sue you though as I think it is infringement... Ive taken a bit of copy right law before. I would consult a legal person though to find out whether its worth doing anything

I think you're right too NR, but imho, I think someone within the Canadian Tire Corporation could have handled this matter a little differently.

Anyway's Evan, here's some reading you might find interesting.

Basmati rice (http://www.american.edu/TED/basmati.htm):
The people in India and Pakistan have been growing this rice for centuries, now they can't even sell their rice by the name they've been calling it for 1000's of years, because a US firm holds the patent for that name now.
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: tfiracing on April 11, 2007, 02:15:08 AM
F*** them,there has to be a media outlet that doesn't have CTC as an advertiser and is looking for a David vs Goliath story to put on one of their programs or articles-just watch how quickly their chequebook comes out then!
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: NealeRacing on April 11, 2007, 04:06:13 AM
i havent had a chance to read what has been said here but honenstly, canadian tire has every right to sue along the lines of copyright infringement. hearing your explanation about your domain is really kinda funny i think ... canadian and tire and what not and how its jsut to common words...no one would ever make a domain canadiantireseries if there did not exist a racing series sponsored by canadian tire

 you really have no case ad id be wiling to bet a lot of money on it. i think canadian tire should be worrying about other things than this and of course they could have been more considerate about the matter, im with you on that 100%. they could have called you or askedfor the domain or somethign along those lines. im surprised they wouldnt jsut offer you money for it being the company they are, and it would be better publicity than this

i dont think you can base your opinions tho of canadian tire on their auto service.. i find the store to be realy nice... ive always shopped there.. iveheard lots of things about the auto place tho... hopefully some of them werent true cuz ive heard some sad stories
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: NealeRacing on April 11, 2007, 04:08:37 AM
yea that rice thign is true. they cant even make their own rice now i heard .. a us firm bought it and they have to buy it from them...  te tribe had the land for like a few hundred years and a us firm jsut came in and tok over i believe and the nativesthere were like....wtf
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: NealeRacing on April 11, 2007, 04:13:11 AM
can i ask why you own all these domain names...?
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 11, 2007, 09:31:26 AM
As I said they are not used nut the tireseries.com is a listing for Canadian Tire Manufactures & Resellers & Tire Installers that sell custom tires.

I could turn it into a hate site and they could do nothing but that is not what the domain names were bought for.

The canadian tire garage stories are true that I tell they are a bunch of liars and should learn how to deal with customers and this has nothing to do with the domain names and this is my opinion. Also the series is not called Canadiantireseries it is nascarcanadiantireseries maybe they are pissed that nascar isn't putting them up on the site with a link and want their own branded site?? Who knows and who cares they wasted a lot of money on a lawyer when all they had to is contact me about this and talk about it. I never said I was goinf to fight them. They were the ones who went after the registrar of this domain as I stated before they never contacted me. I got a copy of the letter in pdf format from the registrar and called John and he made it very clear they wanted to play bully tactics.

I have yet to get a document from Canadian Tire or CT's Lawyers but they are free to call me but they would rather pay thousands on lawyers to do so.

CT is the one that loses here as I block those words from this site and I tried a test and I can do this and replace it with outher word or ******** ****, so they have lost out on free advertising here. I lose nothing as the series already is know as the Nascar Canada Series and has been since it started.

If they don't like the candiantireseries.com domain and it wasn't used for this site and they are woried about people using Canadian Tire as they own them two words them two words will never show up here as I dn't need another letter from them.

Call CT head office and ask have I every call them for money on this domain and ask them what was the site used for??? The lawyer had no clue who owned the site name and that is why they sent it to the registrar.

Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: 3way on April 11, 2007, 10:03:30 PM
You will probably need the Superman cape to deal with CTC. Hope you can work it out
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: SRAMA on April 12, 2007, 09:38:35 PM
Me thinks that there is nothing crappy tire can do about anyone using their name in a sentenc, story or posting, its there name and you have a name to distinguish yourself from others.

I don't know all the ins and outs of copyright and trade mark rights but I would think that NASCAR is all sewed up by themselves, and the same for Canadian tire, however when they partner up and join their names togeather then they would or should in my thinking have to repeat the process for the new name combination.

Is canadian tire going to sue every one who uses their name in a story, someone should sue anyone who talks about CTC.

SRAMA
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 12, 2007, 09:41:51 PM
If they like I can have every message that says canadian tire in it say ******** **** and who loses out they do on free advertising here and it is not my store as I can make it replace it with Nascar Canada series as that is what it really is. Why doin't they go after Nascar for trademarks they have the site nascarcanadiantireseries.com and .ca

I guess it is ok for NASCAR to use it???

Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: NealeRacing on April 13, 2007, 11:14:52 AM
well yea why wouldnt they be able to use it. canadian tire sponsors the series, i would think they would want their name to be affiliated with nascar and the series they are giving hundreds of thousands of dollars towards... nextel cup and craftsman and busch all let nascar use their names. and i am pretty sure that at the bottom of advertsements and other items with the canadian tire name there is a little copyright symbol saying trademark...
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 13, 2007, 05:09:47 PM
it is canadiantire in the name just beacuse they are together don't mean Nascar can use it did they ask canadiantire if they could use the name in the domain name?? and why does nascar own it and not canadian tire???


That is why it is a trade mark and I guess I can go after canadian tires when they use tireseries.com ad I own that???

They lose not me as I will make sure it shows as Nascar Series evenytime someone types in Canadian Tire on the site they can't have it both ways can they??

Why should I promote them ?? when they did even contact me but sicked a lawyer on me???

Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: marcisfan on April 15, 2007, 09:35:09 AM
The one thing that stands out to me is that people spend most of their time complaining on these forums that Canadian companies do nothing to support Canadian racing, yet when they do, everyone whines and complains about how crappy their product is. 
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: NealeRacing on April 15, 2007, 12:34:51 PM
lol yea ive noticed that too , although at least here, Canadian Tire is successful enough whee we can chalk up the complaints that these people have to a select, annoyed few who are ventin their frustration by bad mouthing a company. The Canadian Tire Store itself is very good place, and enouh people obviously concur or it wouldnt be the company it is today and sponsorin a series and a driver for the past 10 years.

I think he should jsut get over it. He infringed on Coptright law and that it. Canadian Tire could have one about it a different way but they didnt. Whining about it on here is not oing to solve anything.

I would still like to know the purpose of the existence of canadiantireseries.com.... What could you possibly want it for???  IF it was a  re-directto this site, wellthen why would Canadian Tire want their name associated with an independant messae board that hasnothign todo with them. Do you see NASCAR linking to any indirect messageboards thats are unsanctoned and open to the possibility of words being said that could be interpreted as sanctioend by the company yet totally now...Canadian Tire in this case
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 15, 2007, 06:45:17 PM
You seem to be making a big seal about it here. I have every right to complain about them lying about fixing my car and 2 months later they won't fix th same problem that they said they said was fixed. They have a 90 day warranty but they don't honnor it and the head office could careless about helping you they tell you to go to another CT store that is not solving anything.

Also the Dundas store says they are not going to fix the car but put a comment on the work order car is not safe to drive but they tell me to go to another Canadian Tire store. If the car is not safe to drive why tell me to drive it to another Canadian Tire store???

CT Head office in the Franchise business and that is it and I can say this a I have the right to as they are a bunch of liars that screw a lot of peoples cars up.

Maybe you like companies that don't offer customer support as they don't this is not the first time I have had problems with that store and the head office did nothing but say that I had to take it uo with the store.

Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: NealeRacing on April 15, 2007, 06:50:54 PM
what part of the seapration of the automotive part and the store part don't you get?  Do you have a problem with the store part as well?

None of us on here can do anything about your horrible car experience. Never go to Canadian Tire for car service again and leave it at that, They have lost a customer, done deal.
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: NealeRacing on April 15, 2007, 06:52:05 PM
HOw many time do I have to ask on this message board what the purpose of having canadiantireseries.com was???
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 16, 2007, 08:54:21 AM
What does it matter the site had a classified site for car manufactures and resellers that sell tires  in Canada. What is it your business anyways to know what it is for. I own Tireseries.com to do you want to know what that is for as well. Maybe they should ask for that as well as it has tires in the name.

They are the big losers in this as would havegot atone of free advertising here and now they get nothing as Canadian Tire will be referred as Nascar ct series or some thing else as it is my site and I can do this. it is OK to use the Canadian Tire name in messages here but in the domain name it is not.

Why didn't they become the number 1 sponsor when it was CASCAR?? Why don't people answer that question. Now they are the big savor in motorsport in Canada as the NASCAR name is there. They could have did this before and kept in all Canadian but they didn't

So answer that question someone I answered the other.




Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: marcisfan on April 16, 2007, 09:32:30 AM
OK, here is your answer.  Instead of complaining about what a company didn't do in the past, how about we embrace them for what they are doing now.  So they didn't sponsor the series when it was CASCAR, so what?  They have been involved for several years with Gibbons car, how about that?  I can tell your pissed because you are fighting with them, but my only advice is suck it up and recognize that they are doing something good for Canadian Motorsports.  Spending time stewing over what people/companies did or didn't do in the past will only lead to a sad existance......
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 16, 2007, 11:31:10 AM
Oh so now they are the big hero's here right? If NASCAR wasn't involved they wouldn't have on a thing and as you can see NASCAR is the name here and not Canadian Tire.

I don't need to suck up anything I'm not mad because I lose nothing here they do.

I never said anything about them sponsoring a car and yes that is good of them to do that but now they are the hero's as they are sponsoring the series along with the Nascar name.

Give me a break If they truly cared about Canadian motorsports they would have sponsored the whole series and kept it Canadian owned. CASCAR series has been in trouble for many years and Canadian Tire sat back and watched and as soon as they hear NASCAR is going to get involved then they want to step up and sponsor the series.

So you can say all you want they would have let the series die if NASCAR never got involved.

Also why don't they sponsor Peter Shepard who is a Canadian drive trying to make it in Nascar. I would be impressed if they did that.

I'm not the only one feels this way as I have gotten emails from people that wont say it hear as NASCAR may not welcome them to the series if they did post their thoughts here.

Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: Hardracing on April 16, 2007, 11:35:08 AM
 I would tend to agree with Marcisfan on this one. Although I do understand your point. Why not call you instead of the whole lawyer thing. But come on. I wouldn't say you're caving if you just gave them what they wanted. Be the bigger person here. I bought a T shirt at Texas Motor Speedway the second year the cup series raced there and I liked the simplicity of it. Many will remember this. "Shut up and race".
Title: Re: Canadian Tire is treatening to sue me
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 16, 2007, 12:10:58 PM
I'm giving them the domain I never said I'm not. But they started this by not doing he right thing and calling me and asking for it. They had to sick the lawyer on me which cost them more by doing it this way.

I also have the right not to shop there and this was way before the domain name thing.

Also here was my point the series sponsor is CT right then why does NASCAR get nascarcanadiantireseries.com domain name which is forwarded to a nascar site and not even a CT site so who should they really be fighting with?? But they know how big NASCAR is and they go after the little guy.

Take a look nascarcanadiantireseries.com site shouldn't this be going to a Canadian Site that is the series and not to everyone of NASCAR Series. Face it people you don't have to agree with me but the Series is NASCAR Canadian series forget the TIRE word as it doesn't count and it has been proven over and over.




Title: Re: Canadian Tire
Post by: Shadowracer on April 16, 2007, 01:34:43 PM
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Give me a break If they truly cared about Canadian motorsports they would have sponsored the whole series and kept it Canadian owned. CASCAR series has been in trouble for many years and Canadian Tire sat back and watched and as soon as they hear NASCAR is going to get involved then they want to step up and sponsor the series.


I'll go along with that. I don't think the website domain thing is terribly surprising...so I have no opinion there. But damn it just makes me mad that after 20 years of trying, it'll now be taken more seriously by many media and sponsors. And why? Just because it says NASCAR on it.  >:(
Title: Re: Canadian Tire
Post by: NealeRacing on April 16, 2007, 01:47:13 PM
If you are going to sit here and whine about what is going on, I think we all have a right to know what the site is being used for. Geeze get over it, you infringed on copyright law, you have no defense. We all agree they could have been nicer about it. And Canadian Tire isn't just invovled becasue of NASCAR. I believe they had 10 years with Peter Gibbons and they sponsored a few races. Wasn'
t there rumours of talks of them sponsoring the series a few years back. Why don't you complain about the other companies who are only getting involved now that NASCAR is involved. YOu can't even really blame the companies for not getting invovled though, blame the population as a whole for not embracing a stock car series because it didn't have the NASCAR name in it. I can't tell you hopw many people I know who didn't know what CASCAR but now that NASCAR has it are interested in going.

Now this classifieds thing you had going, why would Canadian Tire want their name associated with that. IT WASN'T EVEN HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE RACING SERIES THEY SPONSOR from what I am getting in your explanation of the site. Would you want your company associated with somethign totally unlnown if you had one????
You can say whatever you want, but the bottom line is, every average person who would visit canadiantireseries.com I guarantee you would assume it has somethign to do with the company! Clearly , you say it doesn't but was there a note on the site saying the site is in no way affiliated with Canadian Tire... I think probably not.
Title: Re: Canadian Tire
Post by: NealeRacing on April 16, 2007, 01:52:03 PM

http://www.accesscopyright.ca/

http://www.cb-cda.gc.ca/index.html

http://www.bdc-canada.com/BDC/services/Trademark_reg.htm
Title: Re: Canadian Tire
Post by: PLATERMAN on April 16, 2007, 04:20:08 PM
I agree with NealeRacing
                      you do nothing but complain about the CTS and Canadian tire and Nascar. Its your site if you don't like how they are treating you then don't allow posts about it on your site. You seem to think they are reading things on here so don't permote it, the reason I think you are not doing that is because you think eventually Nascar will be a good thing for Canadian racing. And you want your site involved when it happens.  I, like everyone else on this site is anxious to know what is going on this season , I am sure there are things going on behind the scenes we can't understand, so we get frustrated but from what I have seen in the past few years Nascar can't hurt. As far a companies comming on board just because the name has changed to nascar, I say who cares as long as they support Canadian racing and the people who put there heart and soul (and usually money out of their own pockets)  into the sport they love.
Title: Re: Canadian Tire
Post by: Mobil1fan on April 16, 2007, 04:21:32 PM
lol, you haven't been seeing the half of it then...
Title: Re: Canadian Tire
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on April 16, 2007, 06:02:41 PM
See there is the point you say who care if Canadians don't own it. I do as it should have been Canadian owned it was run that way for how many years. It just goes to show how you care about the country you live in. I would rather watch true Canadian racing and you can do this at tracks all over Canada. Maybe we should hand over everything in Canadian to the US??

As for what you say NealeRacing it is different when in domain names and copyrights but I'm not going to explain it again and you seem to keep wanting to bitch about it. I would love to see great racing in Canada but I'm seeing the same thing year after year with are largest series. People keep thinking because Nascar has a stake in it the series is going to be different??

Here is what will be different local Tracks pay more to us the NASCAR name and driver fees will be more most likely. Didn't this happen when Nascar had the Nascar Dodge weekly series?? Oh where is that series now and how log did it last???


NealeRacing you seem to be try to take jabs at me every chance you get and that is fine I can handle it but one thing you seem not to see is Canadian Tire doesn't stand up to Nascar as they are paying big bucks to pay for the series and Nascar has the name NascarCandianTireSeries.com which has the name of CT it but there is nothing that links it to Canadian Tire just shows all Nascar stuff. Isn't that a kick in the face t them they pay all the money and they get nothing??

Oh maybe it is mentioned you can by NASCAR gear from them which still doesn't relate to the Series in Canada. More time and effort is put into making sure the Race in Montreal is mentioned.

I find this amusing, forget the domain name as they will get it when they ask for it and I never contacted them and asked for anything and I'm not a cybersquatter.