Canadian Tire

[CanadianRacingOnline]

I own the domain name Canadiantireseris.com It is a name Canadian Tire series and that is all it is but they want to try and threaten me with legal action. I will post a copy of the letter hear when I scan it. This looks bad for a company that is sponsoring  a series and they don't even have a link to there on site.

At lease Nascar wanted to talk not like this guy saying we are going to court I said he will pay a transfer fee and doesn't seem Like he wants to. It is simple contact me and talk don't threaten me.

I find it funny how people know they are going to sponsor something but they don't get a domain name. This is not used for profit and the series is called Nascar Canadian Tire Series and not Canadiantireseries. I'm a canadian and tire is a common word and so series. On a series of canadian tires is against the law. I guess being Canadian is too. SO in a sentance you cant have Canadian Tire in it is that what they are trying to say and this time i'm not mad or anything like it I just find it strange that a company like them as I can use the name tries to do this. I can see if the series was called canadian tire series but its not as the log clearly shows it is Nascar as the big name and the site they have for it is nascarcanadiantireseries.com & CA. Please explain people are going say we can't say good year as Good Year owns the right to it common we can let people take away every day words from us. I could se if I opened a big box store and started selling what they are selling

They didn't even send a registered letter to me to serve it they did it by the domain registar. I thought I need to sign for it???

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[SRAMA]

I wouldn't fight it.

I would simply rregister and start using      NASCAR Crappy tire series

SRAMA

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[CanadianRacingOnline]

The letter is posted at http://www.canadiantiresseries.com

The letter was addressed to my registrar not even me they forwarded a pdf file to me too day and I can't say if anything was edit and I called the guy and he told me they are comming after me for using it. I told him to pay a transfer fee and really didn't get an answer from him.

I don't even have to talk to him. This is a US domain name and if you read up on it it is not used for profit and it is commonly used words. I'm going to copy rightRedPurple as a company and then go after anyone that has redpurple in there name.



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[NealeRacing]

maybe canadian tire should focus on sueing wal mart instead. i read an ad in the toronto sun about ranger and tagliani with wal mart and proctor and gamble ans once again called the series, "NASCAr Canada Series". Any one can clearly realize that it was done to not give free advertisement to Canadian tire, by its Competitor WalMart. It is not the first time they have called it the Canada Series as well. At least Canadian Tire has been involved with canadian racing. WaMart is just comign in now.

I do have one question though... why did you register canadian tire series as a domain. were you intending to sell it to Canadian Tire or nascar to make money? That seems like a smart thign to do actually

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[NealeRacing]

i think Canadian Tire has a right to sue you though as I think it is infringement... Ive taken a bit of copy right law before. I would consult a legal person though to find out whether its worth doing anything

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[broadway]

Man you have got big ones lol  but good for you. Maybe the management team from Power Water  Grizzly Heads and  (don't) Go Racing are on the board of governor's .If they spent as much time worrying about the series as they spend worrying about you then it would be credible, thus far it really is absurd .I heard Canadian Tire called Nascar about it and they were told to take a hike "we are busy with a schedule issue"

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[CanadianRacingOnline]

Nope how can they sue for two common words. Canadian and Tire. read this site http://www.dnjournal.com/legal/sl-genericdomains.htm


I could careless and I don't shop at crappy tire before this anyways as they are a bunch off crooks and don't care what their franchises do. I had a problem when with my car and paid 600 to fix and it was never fixed and the head office said I had to deal with the store I made huge complaint with a company they use to make complaints and no one called me back they are just selling a franchise can could careless about you.

Support them all you like but I don't and never will as they use bully tactics.

You have too be doing it in bad faith and I never contacted them for money nor was the site in use. So now they want to use it for what it is the NASCAR series not theirs.

Looks bad on them they don't even have a like on the Nascarcanadiantireseries web site they should worry more about that but they want to fight about little things.

Remember there is a lot of other big box stores selling the same stuff they sell so keep pissing people off like you do and you wont have customers and I can say this as this is about the bad service I got at there Dundas stores the people in the automotive won't even get the manager when you ask for one and told me to go find one. Great customer service I'm from a retail background and If I said this to a customer I would have been told to look for e new job.

They can say what they want this will hurt them more then it does me as the names are just sitting there but they are getting bad press over this. They could have been nice about it at least NASCAR worked with me and we did it the right way. Yes I was pissed about the way they went after the cascaronline.com site that was the big issue as I owned that for many years.

Oh well I'm not telling you too not shop at their stores I just choose not to and I can do that if I like.

Also I have owned the site since dec 2006 and it has 2 hits on it to date.





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[CanadianRacingOnline]

I forgot to metion I own a domain name called tireseries.com and it is also used to list manufactures that sell Canadian Tire makers and resellers. SO mamybe they sould come after this as well. Boy they should find out what they names is used for before they sick the dogs after me.

I took down the tires series site and copying it over to the site that was used as a forwarding to it. So read up people and tell em I'm not allowed to tell people where canadian tire maufatures and or who sells them?




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[the_fan]

I hate to say it, but Canadian Tire can take legal action over likeness rights. You are right, Canadian is a common word and so is Tire, but when you put them together they arent common words...its a brand name, "Canadian Tire"

And I see your point totally, and dont think that Im out to be the bad guy or anything, but the best advice that I can think of would be to just give up the domain. Is something so trivial really worth the breath? Especially when your dealing with a company that seemingly has more money than brains.

Every point you have made has a certian amount of truth to it, but Im pretty sure they could find ways around it. I mean really - they find ways around selling you junk and charging an arm and a leg to install it, so Im guessing that this is just "small potatoes".

Good luck to you if you do try to fight it, but I honestly dont see you getting too far, C.T. just has way too much money and influence, if they want it bad enough...they will probably get it.

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[Mobil1fan]

Nope how can they sue for two common words. Canadian and Tire. read this site http://www.dnjournal.com/legal/sl-genericdomains.htm


I could careless and I don't shop at crappy tire before this anyways as they are a bunch off crooks and don't care what their franchises do. I had a problem when with my car and paid 600 to fix and it was never fixed and the head office said I had to deal with the store I made huge complaint with a company they use to make complaints and no one called me back they are just selling a franchise can could careless about you.

Support them all you like but I don't and never will as they use bully tactics.

You have too be doing it in bad faith and I never contacted them for money nor was the site in use. So now they want to use it for what it is the NASCAR series not theirs.

Looks bad on them they don't even have a like on the Nascarcanadiantireseries web site they should worry more about that but they want to fight about little things.

Remember there is a lot of other big box stores selling the same stuff they sell so keep pissing people off like you do and you wont have customers and I can say this as this is about the bad service I got at there Dundas stores the people in the automotive won't even get the manager when you ask for one and told me to go find one. Great customer service I'm from a retail background and If I said this to a customer I would have been told to look for e new job.

They can say what they want this will hurt them more then it does me as the names are just sitting there but they are getting bad press over this. They could have been nice about it at least NASCAR worked with me and we did it the right way. Yes I was pissed about the way they went after the cascaronline.com site that was the big issue as I owned that for many years.

Oh well I'm not telling you too not shop at their stores I just choose not to and I can do that if I like.

Also I have owned the site since dec 2006 and it has 2 hits on it to date.

Did you mean the Dundas Street store, or the store in Dundas?

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[CanadianRacingOnline]

Dundas street store. The said they fixed a gas tank leak and they checked everything and nothing else need replacing IE breaklines I still smelled gas from the car and the guy said it was most likely the put of gas was there on the parking spot nothing to worry about and 2 months later I noticed a huge puddle of gas under the car hard to tell in winter months as it was wet out side. I could have been killed or had a big problem as the two people that park next to my spot smoke. Canadian Tire Store and head office did nothing.

The marked on the bill unsafe to drive but refused to fix the car and told me I should go to another store as they wanted another 1200+ dollars for something they said they fixed 2 months ago. They have a 90 warrantee but said it was something new and head office said I should go to another store and maybe they can give me a discount on the repairs.

They did do nothing they just sell franchises the answer was go to another Canadian tire store when they mare on the invoice car is unsafe to drive?? What the hell is that.

They brought my car into the garage a second time when I told them not to touch it so who nows what they did when they brought it back it. I told them to leave the car alone as I don't want them touching but when I got back to the store they had it on the hoist again. You tell me what they were up to. A bunch of crooks.



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[RDRacing]

You would think that CT would have more to worry about with NO schedule, No rules, No website links from Nascar to CT on the website, and the other issues that are arising with the lack of information coming from NASCAR about the series.  Oh well, maybe CT is afraid of Nascar, and need to take out some frustration on the little guy.

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[22fan]

Dundas street store. The said they fixed a gas tank leak and they checked everything and nothing else need replacing IE breaklines I still smelled gas from the car and the guy said it was most likely the put of gas was there on the parking spot nothing to worry about and 2 months later I noticed a huge puddle of gas under the car hard to tell in winter months as it was wet out side. I could have been killed or had a big problem as the two people that park next to my spot smoke. Canadian Tire Store and head office did nothing.

The marked on the bill unsafe to drive but refused to fix the car and told me I should go to another store as they wanted another 1200+ dollars for something they said they fixed 2 months ago. They have a 90 warrantee but said it was something new and head office said I should go to another store and maybe they can give me a discount on the repairs.

They did do nothing they just sell franchises the answer was go to another Canadian tire store when they mare on the invoice car is unsafe to drive?? What the hell is that.

They brought my car into the garage a second time when I told them not to touch it so who nows what they did when they brought it back it. I told them to leave the car alone as I don't want them touching but when I got back to the store they had it on the hoist again. You tell me what they were up to. A bunch of crooks.

Crackhead Tire has to be the utter worst place for anything automotive. I've had so many bad dealings with my local store (St.Ratford), that I'll spend the extra money at Car Quest, just to ensure I'm getting exactly what I need.

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[John]

Didn't we already talk about this less than half a year ago?   Evan, I thought you unloaded all the unused domains to avoid future disputes such as this?

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[CanadianRacingOnline]

it has nothing to do with Nascars series. They are looking for a site now when does the race season start?? I gave nascar all their names and we are cool.

You can't have a site that list Canadian tire manufactures and reseller of tire made in Canada??? I'm not selling anything and Canadian tire manufactures, resellers and installers that is not again the law to do so what they are going to tell me I can't use Canadian tire in a sentence that is crazy. I also own a site called tireseries.com which I just forwarded to this site when we revamp it. SO if they use canadiantireseries.com and I own tireseries.com can I sue them for using the words tireseries in there domain name? that is BS. Have I ever promoted this site to yo and ask you to use it? Did anyone even Know I owned it? They Lawyer didn't even know it was mine as he threatened the privacy domain company name?? The letter wasn't even addressed to me. SO they are not suing me but I'm sure they will send it again tomorrow as they read the site.

They are the ones that lose as I told him I would turn over the sites but I'm not paying the transfer fees and pay me for the time to do this and trust me I never as for crazy money as most would it is a rate I charge my customers if I was to do this for them. At least with nascar they worked with me and Ya I was pissed at the Cascaronline part that was the big part of the problem I had with Nascar.

But to common words like Canadian Tire why not got to this site

http://www.carmodifier.com/default.asp?Action=displayTireSize&vendorID=116&tireID=149&tireCharID=16747 in the description in the says your Canadian Tire & wheel experts. Why doesn't CT go after him?? I will tell you why as you can use Canadian and Tire and not be referring to them even though when you search for Canadian Tire that site shows. How can you copyright to common words that are used all the time I can see if I was a big box store selling what they sell I would understand. This is a directory for people looking for Canadian tire manufactures and reseller and tire installers in Canada. Everyone close you business down if you are in this field as Canadian Tire owns them two words. They would be pissed even if it was canadian-tire-series.com even though it is broken up and the site can be a guy selling a series of series of Canadian tires and selling them. See what I mean. I can also understand If I called them and said I got this name call me back with a price you are willing to pay and that never happened.

So they can be nice and talk to me as I'm person and not demand me to do things when you haven't sent me an official legal letter. I was nice and called to see what they had to say and this guy started with the mumble jumbo legal terms and tried to scare me. People forget I have been in computer for a long time and I have seen a lot of these cases and yes the little guy can win a guy had a site called rollerblades.com and a comany owns the trademark for it but they lost as this guy ran a hobby site as he liked roller blading and he wasn't competing with them or even selling any thing.

Company's are so stupid they pay lawyers tons of money to right the letter, now he has to another one and he spoke to me on the phone he billed them for that and all they had to do is call me up and ask me what the site is about and say we want the name and we will handle the transfer fees they are most likely out 650 - 1500 for this lawyers service and yes I know who they are and I know who he is

He worked on a case where he won for Canadian tire as the guy opened a site called crappytire.com as we all know it as we us that name all the time but this guy nick was copying there pages to his site and adding crappytire on it so yes that is in bad faith and yes the will take away the domain as you are also stealing copywrite stuff. here is the link

http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2001/d2001-0383.html By the way Canadian Tire still keeps that name crappytire.com it leads nowhere I would have forwarded the name to the main site.

John (Lawyer for Canadian tire) also as written article on people that buy domains to hold the company for ransom to get there domain name back.

I will say it again if I was selling tires or stuff they sell yes nail me as that is in bad faith. The guy with the crappytire.com could have kept that name and use it to bad mouth Canadian tire and there is nothing they could have done as he has the right to say what he feels about the company and he could have got other to do this as well no laws are being broken.

Look at this site and why doesn't walmart get it taken down as it is using their trademark http://walmartsux.com/ Freedom of speech he isn't selling a damn thing

here are some more

http://www.bestbuysux.org/
http://walmart-blows.com/
http://www.homedepotsucks.com/
http://www.target-sucks.com/


What is going on with these site why can they keep the trademark names in the domain name???

I read an article at Workopolis here is the link

http://cnib.workopolis.com/servlet/Content/qprinter/20060426/TQLIMA126


Here is the first site I get when I search what they told me. The web is a powerfull tool and the company's know it now and with blogs popping up all over you see more and more company bashing sites.

http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59765&whichpage=2


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