September 1st Cayuga

[LM4Ever]

I am intrigued by the discussion about what to do with the OSS cars because of words and phrases like old, former, lots of used pieces around, a 20 year old car that can be competitive.  Somehow these don't sound like a solid foundation of an emerging new division.  They sound like like someone trying to build and promote a vintage car division.  I'm no mechanic or car builder but I heard a discussion in the Late Model pits one night about new chassis's and how all of the pick-up points and geometry had changed radically in just the last five years.  Maybe that's why it sounds like such a challenge for owners of these cars to find a place in the existing multitude of Late Model divisions - they're just plain old technology.  If those 10 to 20 drivers were to invest in their race programs, get some new technology, and move into the existing fields of cars of their choice, wouldn't everyone benefit via car count and stronger fields vs. another division of Late Model appearing cars that have to stand alone and don't keep up - speed wise or technology wise?  Just asking!

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[racerman]

hey late model,the oss cars are like the nascar canadian tire cars,moters are different along with other things ,my car just happens to have a older type clip .this doesnt mean these cars are slow or junk or vintage .just different then a late model car which i think are are over priced ,but i like the crate moter.as far as speed they are slower then a late model but there is more passing then say a late model at delaware .i would have to say that the fans liked watching the old cascar run better then what is going on at deleware.single file racing is pretty boring to watch sorry.as far as the oss it will grow ,there are a lot of these types of cars around.You can get in at a reasonable investment.why should i go spend 50 grand for a new car when i have one now.my point is that you can work and make a older chassie work as well as a new one.ps thanks jay its been a while since the last win.from what i understand you can run a crate in a oss car

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[MID]

The OSS cars are not really outdated with respects to the NASCAR CTS cars.
We have both, and they can convert farely easy to one sereis or another.
The biggest differance is the Body's- and only the Chevrolet body's, and the engine rule of Dry Sump for the CTS cars and Wet sump for the OSS cars, although you can run a Dry Sump in the OSS if you wish.
Schraders comment about the shocks would still be said today, even in the NASCAR CTS cars as the shock rule has never changed.

As for 20 year old chassis, I don't know of any, but thats not to say there isint any out there. Regardless of the age, just think of how many Cup teams refuse to give up on old chassis that are winning cars. I know Rusty ran a bunch of cars that were outdated but still great cars and ones that he preffered and that is not uncomon even down South.

Just a quick note on Gears- I needed to buy a 6:50 gear set and called my supplier.
He quoted me $77.00 for the gear set...... I said order me a 100 of them !!
He then said ' Oh you want a 9" gear.... thats $820.00

Sure wish we had quick changes, and I am sure everyone gets my point where this obviously is a great cost saver.

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[Ru-Ready-2race]

Let me sum this up for all of you, when you start changing inventory in your stable, you start adding dollars to your budget, in the oss series we are racers with low or no budget so, to buy a assembly to change over to a quick change rear end,it will cost you 1400.00 to 2800.00 with no gear sets so start adding $$$'s there as well, so is it cost effective to change,, we have gears if one breaks we build another which we are capable enough to do in our own shop, so we do not have to pay someone big bucks to do it for us, teams with a bigger budget are able to do this witch is great for them, but not for us, we have to work are butts off to be competitive in any series that we have run, in short if you have parts laying around, that are not useful to you, they may be useful to others and extend the budget even further... Oss is a club run series, between all of us we can have one hell of a series, for example Al Lebert is letting Skeeter run his 2nd car and he should be given PROPS for doing so... we all love the sport or we wouldn't do it, lets help each other out, and have a good time doing so...

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[MID]

Agreed- BUT- In order to build the series we will have to adapt other cars to be equal and in that case it means allowing outside of the box as far as rules go- but keep it real as far as competition. Once the series has a car count of 30 cars, then and only then should we consider writing a rule book that mandates everything from Fuel Cells to Ball joints.

I for one hate change in a series as it does cost someone, everytime, and that is not what this series is about, but with a little management we could endorse other series cars to run with us for the sake of the Tracks and the Fans, without spending any more money then the cost to run a true Sportsman Car.

I expect to see this series grow quickly, and car counts for next year could exceed 24 cars per event, and that is our goal as a series, as entertainment, and as a true format to a professional racing opration here in Canada.

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