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Would you prefer double file restarts at Delaware?

Double File
24 (80%)
Current 1-2-3 Single File
6 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 28

Voting closed: August 31, 2011, 11:57:01 AM

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Offline Racing Habits

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Re: Out of curiosity
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2011, 10:06:18 AM »
On the subject of restarts there would be less of them if you looked into the causes of them. I think that most would agree that hard legitimate honest racing could end up in one and be acceptable. On the other hand if you kept track of the restarts that were caused by certain people spinouts on their own, blocking, cars too far out of pace of the race you would find it's usually the same ones who cause them or involved.
It's tough to race 10 laps passing a tough competitor only to lose your work to a single car spinout, what is that guys reason for it? 

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Re: Out of curiosity
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2011, 10:06:18 AM »

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Re: Out of curiosity
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2011, 12:28:22 PM »
A restart isn't supposed give someone an advantage, or take that away.. It's just a continuation of a race that was slowed, due to someones bad luck.. How would you like it if you wasted five laps trying to get past a car, and then find that they are not only along side of you on a restart, but they have the preferred line.. Giving positions away ain't racing.. Or laps either..


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Re: Out of curiosity
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2011, 12:34:07 PM »
The ministocks at Flamboro seem to hang the high side no problem, but the thunders really struggled up there. Delaware is allot worse for the high side than any track I have seen. This is from a spectators point of view but it looks you need about 5 tenths of a second better guy to make a pass. I would be curios to see how the $- bangers make out. 3 wide is quite common at Flamboro



I believe the key to passing at low grip tracks is to either have a ton of grip in the tires meaning $$$racing tires. wider and softer than what most run now and these would be wore out by the end of the night  meaning 4 new ones every week.....or to take grip away from everyone so that no one has grip that would be street tires in classes like 4-banger and street stock it works but it also means lower speeds but also puts passing in the drivers hands not hoosier and goodyear.......a class like thunder/super stock that that was on  a street tire would again see alot of passing but get anyone to agree to that LOL ha ha........LLM and lates put them on the towel city recap.....ya it would slow them down abit but they would also be able to go 2 wide and pass........when the 4-6 banger race goes to delly you will see manny on the outside makin passes......before all the great race tires were put on all of our race cars there was 2 lanes everywhere and if everyone thinks back it was late models everywhere that first had follow the leader racing and knock em out of the way passing...while support classes on s*it tires were doin all the passing and now even 4-banger classes have too much tire and they pass less but the so called JOKE classes like 4-fun dacar and 4-6 enduro have the crap tires and can pass.........does anyone else see this?? :o

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Re: Out of curiosity
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2011, 06:20:10 PM »
Some street tire compounds nowadays are rivaling the racing stuff. Anyway it is what it is and the track is the track we have. Nothing is going to change in the near future that I can see.

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Re: Out of curiosity
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2011, 07:09:59 PM »
ya I know and I am not expecting changes but what I am calling a street tire is puting everyone on a $60 cheapy hard tire with a rule on tread depth to eliminate shaving or at least make it non cost effective just like on the street if it dont pass a safety off it comes in favor of a new one :-X

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Re: Out of curiosity
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2011, 05:44:58 PM »
Lets face it
Delaware is not an overly wide racetrack to begin with, and the asphalt is a little weathered, A little more banking and some fresh pavement would open up the 2nd groove. Even the supers with those big right rears have trouble on the outside right now. Let the super stocks use the old latemodel tires and do some testing. A lot of the USA tracks recycle their top class tires. Couldn't hurt to try em out. I remember running a set of old Hoosier Commanches at a street stock invatational at Sable one night.
We won our first heat of the year and finished 5th in the feature. (Then got DQ in tech) but it sure was fun.

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