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[racewoman]

Teams are always cooking at Cayuga and other tracks. The best was the steak! Yummy but like I said I didn't do the cooking. LOL

Drag racing was fun but oval track racing is where it is at!! 

 

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[Shadowracer]

It is still there & enforced.  The only animals that would be allowed in are service dogs.

What about the Super Stock drivers on their night off? They're a bunch of animals. 


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[latemodel28]

I will have to agree with pinecrest on this one. Kids under 12 should definatly not be allowed in the pits. I remember when i was young i would have to watch my dad from the grandstands and go in the pits after the races. it just takes one incident and everyone will hurt from it.

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[racingwrench]

As a rule the no kids and no pets rule is good but if you are in a travelling series and the whloe family is travelling in the truck or motorhome and arrives at the track very early and cannot spent the whole day in the parking lot and the stands with no shelter etc would be pretty rough.  I think that they should be able to enter the pit area with the hauler before practice but must exit at the start of practice until the end of the program a time when the pits are "hot pits".  

What I find is a MAJOR safety hazard and a miracle that no one is hurt is after the races a large number of fans feel qualified to drive thier street cars into the pit area and just drop their car wherever while they wander around the pits.  The pits are very dangerous during racing but after the race there is easily three times as many people walking down there and a ton of kids out getting autographs and trucks and trailers backing out.  Not to mention that as haulers are leaving there are cars coming in through the same single lane gate?  Also some of these people who drive in drive into the track like they are competing in a timed lap.  Come on people pull your heads out of your buts and leave your personal vehicle out side get some exercise and use your legs.  Peoples rotted out old pos or even their new average car do not need to be shown off to their buddies in the pit area they just arent impressive  and they serve no purpose in the pit area.  I hope alot of track promotors are reading this I know several do, please address this situation  you do alot of work to keep the fans safe during the race but what does your insurance cover after the race when a fan with no waiver is hit in the pits by a non competition vehicle?

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[SRAMA]

My first date with my to be wife was to the pits a Cayuga ......... she got hit by a car in the pits ........ and she was a full grown adult.

Friend of mine was the lady that threatened to take Delaware and Cayuga to court over the no women in the pits and ended that deal.

As a "senior" with some hearing loss from race cars and fab shopes I have to say any kids at the tracks without hearing protection is a total no no.

I vote 66% with Pinecrest no kids, no dogs, but keep the cooks.

SRAMA

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[22fan]

Pit lizard in heels? Maybe I should take a trip up to Sunset... even though I haven't been there, since my great uncle (Ken Shakell) sold it.

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[racewoman]

I have been pretty lucky at some tracks. The owners would let the kids and I in through the pit gate and across the track into the spectator stands. Like I have said in my other post it would be great if all tracks would open both gates at the same time. As racing is a family sport.

22fan please don't turn this post into something that is going to get cut short. I believe Evan has warned us all about the language on here AGAIN. We don't need to be babysitting on here. So let just keep this clean everyone.

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[jcrashm2]

my daughter has been coming in the pits since she was 13 and just last year at 15 she started racing minis...she never would have learned anything to prepare her by sitting in the stands...but i think under 12 unless they are tied up in the hauler should be the rule...dont need rug rats getting in the way...and they should have a maximum age too...maybe 65...some of those old farts that hang around the pits getting in the way, walking across the exit from the track or crossing from the stnads to the toilet or to get food...just slide on the depends and sit your old creeky butts with the regular population and stay out of the pits.

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[Pinecrest]

my daughter has been coming in the pits since she was 13 and just last year at 15 she started racing minis...she never would have learned anything to prepare her by sitting in the stands...but i think under 12 unless they are tied up in the hauler should be the rule...don't need rug rats getting in the way...and they should have a maximum age too...maybe 65...some of those old farts that hang around the pits getting in the way, walking across the exit from the track or crossing from the stands to the toilet or to get food...just slide on the depends and sit your old creeky butts with the regular population and stay out of the pits.

 I don't know why you would want to ban people like Vic Parsons Brian Davis and Bill Burrows from racing but thats not what this thread is about .

 Your argument that if your daughter had not been allowed in the pits at 13 she would never had been ready to get in a race car is BS since EVERY stock car driver that is in the Hall of Fame American and Canadian was not allowed into the pits until they were 18 or close to it . I have yet to see a valid argument on here why anyone under the age of 16 or that is not a driver should be in the pits.

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[racewoman]

I understand what you are saying jcrashm2. Also not only the fans walking around but the odd guy riding his bike 



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[hill3]

pinecrest if one was to do what you suggest it may very well destroy the future of racing. our local track allows drivers in the entry level classes at age 14. In these two classes they make up to 35% of the racers. we also allow each team to have one jr. member,ages 12 -16, to mentor. It is up to the team to teach and watch these jr members. we felt as a club that with out this program we would end up with only members age 40- 60. Kids now have more stuff thrown at them with drugs, sex, split families and peer pressure than ever before. I was taught to share my passion for this sport to those coming up, my son will make our family the first third generation family here. this is for local classes only and our numbers show it to be a huge success in its third year.

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[MID]

I will take the side of Pinecrest by 50% and add my own balance of the 50 % added the storey.
Anyone in the Pit Area of a race track needs to pay attention, stop, look and listen, reagardless of the age. Every once in a while you will see kids runing everywhere in the pits and doing so without a care in the world. I dont blame the kids as much as I do the parents because in most cases, the parents dont have a clue where the kids are, and have never made ground rules to start with so the kids do what ever they want. As well, these kids are so out of control because the parents have never made rules, at the Track or at home.
I will take a good kid any day of the week over a Drunken Fan in the pits, as they perform more like bad kids then kids do !!
The age limit for the pits should be a number- 12 - 14 -16... I dont care what the age is but it should be upheld by the race track and the Insurance company.
The way the person controls his kid, or himself, takes me to another point.
No one should be allowed in the pits unless they are part of the show- Driver, Crew, Owner !!!
The pits can be a scarry place and the last thing we need is someone there that does not understand what the heck is going on.
My Biggest examples...
1. The Guy and Girl , or the guy and guy, or the girl and girl, that walk where ever they please while talking and paying no attention to whats going on around them. They can be walking down the center of pit road and dont give a dam that they are in your way.
2. Your trying to work on your car and the fans are closer to making the repair then you are, because you cant get close enough to your car to fix it.
3. The Guy that always knows what's wrong with your car's setup.... but has no idea what gear lube smells like.
4. Some Dog that belongs to someone takes a crap in your pit area, even though it has 10 acres of land to choose from but feels your space is better.
5. The people that refuse to move even though you try the wistle attack, then the ' excuse me' line, then the 'look out coming through', then the nudge in the leg area with your bumper... and they turn around and flip you the finger for being in thier way !!!
Pits are for racers, stands are for fans, and under age or over age, or anything that walks on four feet should stay away until the races are over.     

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[Pinecrest]

pinecrest if one was to do what you suggest it may very well destroy the future of racing. our local track allows drivers in the entry level classes at age 14. In these two classes they make up to 35% of the racers. we also allow each team to have one Jr. member,ages 12 -16, to mentor. It is up to the team to teach and watch these Jr members. we felt as a club that with out this program we would end up with only members age 40- 60. Kids now have more stuff thrown at them with drugs, sex, split families and peer pressure than ever before. I was taught to share my passion for this sport to those coming up, my son will make our family the first third generation family here. this is for local classes only and our numbers show it to be a huge success in its third year.

 hill3 I wish you had of included the name of your track because of the over 100 tracks that I have ever been to ,I have never seen a track that ran a program of full size cars of  be it stock cars , modifieds , sprinters , supers and related classes that had a 1/3 of their drivers  are under 16. If your talking about track like Wonderland or Grand Bend that is "mini car" based facility that is a whole different kettle of fish . I did see where you said you were the tech of something called the Seimans West Tour but when I google that I show no results.

 I did wonder when someone was going to play the kids are under so much pressure these days card but as a child of the 60s we had all the same pressures and maybe more sex and drugs . We did have better parties though like Woodstock maybe you heard about it ? Please don't tell me that with out have rug rats in the pits the future is doomed because we are about to enter the 5 th generation of racers / fans in my family and NONE of the children have been able to run around the pits. The only thing that can keep your kids on the strait and narrow is YOU .  Being brought to the track and even given a race car and all the help that intails wont keep kids strait , ask Steve Hmeil or Mike Skinner just to name a couple famous fathers that now realize that.

 Nice try but your argument for kiddies in the pits just wont hold water but I would like to know the name of your track .

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[Pinecrest]

 Mid we agree totally pits are for racers not Rover not drunks not for great granpa Elmer or kiddies .


 I did like your "guy who knows it all" but not what gear lube smells like . That guy goes to almost every track I have ever been to lol.

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[Mobil1fan]

hill3 I wish you had of included the name of your track because of the over 100 tracks that I have ever been to ,I have never seen a track that ran a program of full size cars of  be it stock cars , modifieds , sprinters , supers and related classes that had a 1/3 of their drivers  are under 16. If your talking about track like Wonderland or Grand Bend that is "mini car" based facility that is a whole different kettle of fish . I did see where you said you were the tech of something called the Seimans West Tour but when I google that I show no results.

I'll bet $5 bucks its Auto Clearing Motor Speedway in Saskatoon......Right?

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