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shifty333 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 18, 2009, 06:12:30 PM »

Hooker may sacrifice that, but 2 guys that are 25, 26th in national standings will not those points at that point and assuming good runs wiht wins down the stretch will be far more important than 10,000 if they have a shot for nation 1st 2nd or 3rd place

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Harvman29 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 18, 2009, 06:49:18 PM »

There's no way in hell they will have a shot at 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place in the national standings because the car counts down there are way too high so the points are doubled, they also have twice as many starts and even now they are still way too far away to even get in the top 10 with only a month left in the points paying races

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shifty333 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 18, 2009, 09:20:05 PM »

we'll see what happens most guys down there if you look at the top 25 have well over or are at 18 starts robblee and ronny have only 15

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Harvman29 · « **Reply #33 on:** August 18, 2009, 09:35:30 PM »

Ya well if they have 18 or more starts already arent they just gonna rack up more starts and then possibly better their worst finishes???

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shifty333 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 18, 2009, 09:42:58 PM »

its possible im just saying that nascarhometracks counts every start towards a point, until the end of the year so if you look at ontario mathews is 3rd i think but look at his starts ronny and robblees records are keeping them competative above guys with 5+ more starts than them so say one of them dominates the rest of the year wiht only wins and top 3s they could very well be competitive for a top 10

and your right maybe not a nation champion but who knows stranger things have happened it would be great for a canadian to win what has always been an american dominated sport!

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #35 on:** August 18, 2009, 11:00:55 PM »

Quote from: Harvman29 on August 18, 2009, 05:14:42 PM

But what im saying is that will guys like Robblee, Sheridan, Hooker, sacrifice a good run in the 100 lap points race to keep their nose clean...

Well, if you're talking about those 3, no. (Kennedy either) I actually don't think they'd play it any differently than they normally would. All the top guys are stout runners and not prone to much stupidity even when there's lots on the line.

It'd be everyone else that I'd be worried about.

But listen, there's guys competeing for NASCAR points in both Michigan and New York. Is it not conceivable that some of them might make the haul?

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kmcleod · « **Reply #36 on:** August 19, 2009, 10:25:48 AM »

Nascar points can only be earned in your home province/state so nobody from outside of Ontario will race the 300 for Nascar points. Â So that only leaves Barrie cars that could earn Nascar points at the 300. Â Unlikely that any Barrie cars would travel to Delaware as they are Limited Late Models, running the 602 crate with a 2 bbl, 5 inch ride height, stock style front ends(ie steering box, a frames and big springs) as Glenn said a knife to a gun fight. Â Also the Nascar Ontario money only rewards the top three drivers, with Delawares great 23 plus car counts this year the Barrie guys don't have a chance at a top 5 placing let alone a top 3 money spot. Â The Nascar points are awarded as two points per car to a maximum of 46 (23 car field) plus 5 bounus points for a win. Â So if you have 23 cars start the winner takes home 51 Nascar points. Â At Barrie this year the largest car count has been 20 with an average of 17. Â So the winner on a night with 17 cars at Barrie can only earn 39 points that is 12 less points than a Delaware winner gets. Â This is why the Barrie cars don't have a chance at the top 3 money. Â Currently Robblee has a 40 point per race average over the 15 features with Sheridan at 39.93 and Urlin at 31.6. Â Currently the National standings have Marty Ward in 6th place with an average of 40.06 and Lee Falk in 7th with 38.22, so if Robblee and Sheridan can maintain there current race average they should finish somewhere between 6th and 9th in the National Standings. Â Steven Matthews average is 29.06 while Barrie points leader Gord Shepard has a 29.44 average. Hope this helps with all the questions about Nascar points.

Keith

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Statsman · « **Reply #37 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:47:07 AM »

Quote from: kmcleod on August 19, 2009, 10:25:48 AM

Nascar points can only be earned in your home province/state so nobody from outside of Ontario will race the 300 for Nascar points. ï¿½Â So that only leaves Barrie cars that could earn Nascar points at the 300. ï¿½Â Unlikely that any Barrie cars would travel to Delaware as they are Limited Late Models, running the 602 crate with a 2 bbl, 5 inch ride height, stock style front ends(ie steering box, a frames and big springs) as Glenn said a knife to a gun fight. ï¿½Â Also the Nascar Ontario money only rewards the top three drivers, with Delawares great 23 plus car counts this year the Barrie guys don't have a chance at a top 5 placing let alone a top 3 money spot. ï¿½Â The Nascar points are awarded as two points per car to a maximum of 46 (23 car field) plus 5 bounus points for a win. ï¿½Â So if you have 23 cars start the winner takes home 51 Nascar points. ï¿½Â At Barrie this year the largest car count has been 20 with an average of 17. ï¿½Â So the winner on a night with 17 cars at Barrie can only earn 39 points that is 12 less points than a Delaware winner gets. ï¿½Â This is why the Barrie cars don't have a chance at the top 3 money. ï¿½Â Currently Robblee has a 40 point per race average over the 15 features with Sheridan at 39.93 and Urlin at 31.6. ï¿½Â Currently the National standings have Marty Ward in 6th place with an average of 40.06 and Lee Falk in 7th with 38.22, so if Robblee and Sheridan can maintain there current race average they should finish somewhere between 6th and 9th in the National Standings. ï¿½Â Steven Matthews average is 29.06 while Barrie points leader Gord Shepard has a 29.44 average. Hope this helps with all the questions about Nascar points.

Keith

Geeze I thought I was the numbers guy in the family

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Racers Agent · « **Reply #38 on:** August 20, 2009, 11:28:38 AM »

Either way it goes, we still have a couple wreck fests left before the big show.. Hard to tell who will actually be there in the end if the next couple of races are anything like any of the Late Model races at Delaware this year..

FYI.. after last weeks disappointing finish the 5 car was again pretty much unfixable in time for Fridays show...so..after some negotiating with both sponsors Kyle will be running the KFC car this weekend and if there is a God and the weapons decide to behave this Friday, he may stay in that car for the 300.

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Harvman29 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:00:00 PM »

Quote from: Shadowracer on August 18, 2009, 11:00:55 PM

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But listen, there's guys competeing for NASCAR points in both Michigan and New York. Is it not conceivable that some of them might make the haul?

It's funny you say that because I saw the Robblee's hauler going through Toronto on Tuesday... I wondered were they were headed? Don't know if they had the late models or the LOSC cars in their... i doubt that they had the LOSC cars in their as their next races are Delaware, and Flambee

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racerx · « **Reply #40 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:01:14 PM »

Hope it all stays together for you guys, Kyle is making great strides as a driver, just not had any luck!

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3-Wide · « **Reply #41 on:** August 25, 2009, 11:58:27 AM »

So I was thinking that....there probably is a good chance there won't be more then 38 cars...(lets hope there is 40+ but I have my doubts) so if thats the case...what happens with the LCQ-25? does the event now become the Total APC 275? haha

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #42 on:** August 25, 2009, 12:52:32 PM »

Quote from: 3-Wide on August 25, 2009, 11:58:27 AM

So I was thinking that....there probably is a good chance there won't be more then 38 cars...(lets hope there is 40+ but I have my doubts) so if thats the case...what happens with the LCQ-25? Â does the event now become the Total APC 275? Â haha

Nah...they'll just do a 25 lapper for Chaos Cars.

Call it the Ryan Day Memorial race.

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ernie · « **Reply #43 on:** August 25, 2009, 04:33:07 PM »

Quote from: Shadowracer on August 25, 2009, 12:52:32 PM

Quote from: 3-Wide on August 25, 2009, 11:58:27 AM
So I was thinking that....there probably is a good chance there won't be more then 38 cars...(lets hope there is 40+ but I have my doubts) so if thats the case...what happens with the LCQ-25? ï¿½Â does the event now become the Total APC 275? ï¿½Â haha

Nah...they'll just do a 25 lapper for Chaos Cars.Â

Call it the Ryan Day Memorial race.

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #44 on:** August 25, 2009, 05:25:23 PM »

Rumor has it as well that Jay Doerr will be joining the chaos ranks...but just for the big weekend. Said something about it being way more awesome than running a dirt car.

(you didn't hear that from me though, OK? He'd kill me for letting it slip.)

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