Below the Yellow Line.

[longstreet]

dream on.people see what they want to see. fatboy got away with one due to the fact that nascar wanted a NAME to win.tis true tis true

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[FromTheStands]

if jr would have been in the car i think a different call would have been made. jmho.

Haven't you seen the replay? I think the replay clearly shows what is being said here and in fact that even if it was Jr. in the 01 car and Tony in the 20 that the right call should be Tony winning.

I think your missing the point Ladybug, Junbug wouldn't have avoided Tony, just watched him spin by infront of him. Anyone of the experienced drivers would have made Tony pay for the second move.

And to be clear, Smith was inside of Tony (allbe it not by much) when Tony moved back to the inside. That's when Smith made a second move further inside. His mistake was to move further. I'm sure this will come up again and Nascar will have another political decision to make. I just hope no one gets hurt!!


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[ladybugprincess88]

Not true one bit. The 01 wasn't even beneath him so therefore there's no chance of wrecking; The 01 just went down there because of no clear shot at the win in the position he was at, or the simple fact that he thought it was legal to pass below the yellow line on the final lap. And even if he was, I honestly don't see anybody else doing it. Only those that have the "drive to do anything for the win, whether wreck competitors or not", such as Kyle Busch.

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[longstreet]

oh lady bug pass the duchie from the lefthand side pls. now exhale. you are entitled to your opioin but pls do not try and convince me what i saw as a fan and a race for twenty years was not a block.

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[FromTheStands]

Not true one bit. The 01 wasn't even beneath him so therefore there's no chance of wrecking; The 01 just went down there because of no clear shot at the win in the position he was at, or the simple fact that he thought it was legal to pass below the yellow line on the final lap. And even if he was, I honestly don't see anybody else doing it. Only those that have the "drive to do anything for the win, whether wreck competitors or not", such as Kyle Busch.

I can honestly say, your one of the few(can't think of any others) who have seen the replays that way. Regan was without a doubt underneath the left rear corner when the Tony came down.

And,... I stand by my comment, many, many others would have turned the 20. You make 2 moves and all bets are off. Stay tuned, this isn't over. Nascar will be forced to make it "not a judgment call"

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[B.A.R.]

Block, or not to Block....that is the question !!

Step back in time a bit and lets take a look at this whole deal from Tony's eye's.

Daytona 2008- Last lap - Tony's leading on the bottom- Newman gets a push on the outside from Kurt Busch- Tony stays down- Busch and Newman fly by on the high side-
Newman wins.

If Stewart would have moved up...200ft before turn 3...Stewart would have won, but instead of pulling a major block, he stays down and looses the Daytona 500...
Nice guys don't win races.
They just make the highlite's and feel more stupid for not taking the chance !!

Okay...skip ahead to last week...

Stewart has the lead coming out of 3, and is challenged on exiting turn 4 by the 01 car of Smith.   Tony protects the bottom ...and the top...of his racing line as he is allowed, and not because he is the leader, but because he is ahead of the other car and can control the position as long as there is no contact.

Smith moves high... and then low...and then is committed not just by the move, but more importantly by the Speed and the Side Draft.
In this position it is almost imposable to get out of the throttle without losing side grip which will loosen the car up and create unsprung weight- thus if your lucky you take to the grass at 210mph sideways, and if your unlucky- the car would try and turn right all on it's own and now you come back up the race track...thus...the "huge one".

Smith made the move correctly, as would anyone trying to get their first win in Cup.
I commend him on the job of not just getting their, but more importantly for taking the chance with a bold move, saving the car and his position.

Stewart made the correct move as well, as would anyone in his position... your protecting the last 500ft to assure a win.  I commend him for not putting more of a block on Smith which would have caused a major wreck.

Stewart wins, and I don't know where NASCAR had their head and brain in this call- but Smith was 100% in 2nd place- and if anyone wants to bash the call at the end of that race..your pissed off emotions should be directed directly at the bone head call by Nascar for not seeing the 01 car as the second place car upon completion.
If trhe 01 would have been the 88....then what ??

Nascar scored the 01 car in 18th spot which is the biggest mistake to date that they have ever accomplished.   Even on the nascar.com site they have the story about the whole deal, which ends with the statement- "Now lets all move on" - a very typical Nascar response when they know they have absolutely screwed up and just refuse to talk about it.      And NASCAR wonders why they are called BoneHead's..... " Here's your sign !!!"

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[longstreet]

if the 01 would have been the 88 then the 20 would have been 2nd.

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[ladybugprincess88]

No with what was seen, all of the above is obvious.

Thou this is what happens with sports - every sport has a judgemental call. Some may agree and some may not - that's how it seems to be here. We've seen other calls that should've been something else or what not and everyone is quick to judge. That was NASCAR's and they run the sport so therefore it's their call. Now we move on.


.....So, anyone looking forward to Charlotte??

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[FromTheStands]

.....So, anyone looking forward to Charlotte??

You bet.

Hmmm, what kind of finishes do we see at Lowes MS ??


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[ladybugprincess88]

Sometimes side-by-side and sometimes spread right out. It just depends on if one person can take off and dominate, like Jimmie has a lot lately, or if a lot of people can remain close. With the way the chase is gone so far, I think it'll be another good finish as nobody seems to be exactly dominate.

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[B.A.R.]

Ladybug, thank God your a fan... because just like the WWF- Nascar needs folks like you that thinks this shit is real as long as they say it is.

P.S.- Nascar does not run the show as you stated....
It is run from a space craft in outer space, that see's fans like like you believing everthing they say.    Keep your Space Suit on and don't forget the secret hand shake that has been sent to you by the chosen one from Daytona.....

Obeone Kanobee has reviewed next season already with Nascar, and they have picked Luke Skywalker to win in 2009.   
Nascar has spoken, so we should all believe it as they are the best in racing......

Get a grip on yourself.....

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[longstreet]

there is no room for judgement calls in racing when a set of rules is black and white, and if you honestly beleive that reagan would get the same treatment as jr, well pass the duchie from the left hand side and exhale.

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[FromTheStands]

well pass the duchie from the left hand side and exhale.

Is that like saying "pull the other one, it has bells on" ?

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[longstreet]

 uh no. but i'll explain mine if you explain yours.

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