Author Topic: GEM to buy BDR? Silly Season. (Read 3110 times)

AutoAssembler · « **on:** September 15, 2008, 06:32:56 PM »

According to what I just read on Jayski, if there's any truth too it, I'm hoping Patrick Carpentier manages to stay with the team in the 4th car.

It had been rumoured that Patrick might go with the Wood Bros as the Wood Bros. were quoted as stating they liked him.

I would prefer to see Dave Blaney go with the Wood Bros and Patrick stay where he's at, but either way, works for me as long as Patrick has a ride for next year.

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ladybugprincess88 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2008, 01:15:13 PM »

True. Though between 'em, GEM is the better of the two

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Thayne · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2008, 01:29:21 PM »

I unno, being #4 at GEM u may not get the support that u wld as the only team at Woods....Wood Bros are getting all new equipment, they may have some decent stuff next year....

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2008, 01:29:21 PM »

ladybugprincess88 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 16, 2008, 01:48:20 PM »

True, that's a good point. I was just basing my opinion as to what team has run better lately, and that'd be GEM

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duken · « **Reply #4 on:** September 16, 2008, 04:00:50 PM »

Ford is a better go than Dodge as far as factory support I would think, especially considering that the Woods are primarily a single car team. I suspect Jon Wood will get some seat time in a second entry at some tracks.

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rossevans30 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 16, 2008, 07:00:39 PM »

The Wood brothers are so outdates is a career ender for whoever ends up there. To say that Ford will support them, when Ford only supports Rouch is crazy. Look at Yates, it was back in the Dale Jarret days that Jarret openly criticized Ford for not supporting them with engineering. Hasn't got much better either, just look at that once powerful team..

It would be nice for Carpentier to make it somewhere. But to do that he needs a car, and there are few options in cup these days. What he needs is a miricle for someone to give their head a shake, and relize he has far more potiention than losers like Mears and Stremmie that will be taking (and wasting) 2 decent rides next year. Unfortunatly a snowballs chance in heck on that. To NCTS for Carpentier, where he can sit around bitching about being there like Alex Tag..

GEM buy BDR... I wouldn't bet on that one. Every time a team buys another team it has something to gain from it. Crap, forgot the name again, oh yeah Ginn to Earnhart, Mark Martin and points for the 15 car. BDR comes with... good sponsor - no, good engineering - no, same cars to use - no, good drivers - no, top 35 points - maybe... So why wouldn't GEM just start their own 4th team, I think they would be better off... Unless thats the only way into the Toyota camp......

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ladybugprincess88 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 16, 2008, 08:02:08 PM »

Ross, your counter to duken on factory support there is good with the Wood Brothers in relation to Ford. And isn't Dodge only removing their factory support from the Truck Series?

"he has far more potiention than losers like Mears and Stremmie that will be taking (and wasting) 2 decent rides next year." Stremme, okay I will agree on that. He ran in Cup before, as we all remember the #40, and proved that was bad. So good call there! Though on Mears, you could be wrong. For me, I'm thinkin that Mears got screwed a lot over at HMS and that's what's made him look bad. As you recall near the end of last year, he was with Lance McGrew, and his finishes were on the way up. They had chemistry and he was doing a lot better than the rest of the year. Then for this year, they put him with Alan Gustfason and has that turned out good? No! So I think that Casey has got screwed over at HMS, even thou I like HMS, and hopefully it works for him at RCR. If he doesn't do well, while then we know it's the driver and not the team. Thou if he does well and Mark doesn't do well next year in the #5, well then we know that the 5 team isn't at the caliber of the other 3 HMS boys. Basically what I'm saying is next year is going to be a test/discovery year for Mears & the #5 team

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rossevans30 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2008, 08:17:47 PM »

It doesn't matter how you cut it, this year at HMS proves it. Jr comes over and keeps a HMS car in the top 10. So which is it. Jr, got the 25 team and simply outdrove Mears, or did they swap the 5 with the 25 for some unknown reason giving Jr what was the 5?

Mears had his shot at Gannassi, he had his shot at HMS. 25th in HMS equipment? Come on...

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longstreet · « **Reply #8 on:** September 16, 2008, 08:33:39 PM »

recycle recycle recycle

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ladybugprincess88 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 16, 2008, 09:04:30 PM »

Quote from: rossevans30 on September 16, 2008, 08:17:47 PM

It doesn't matter how you cut it, this year at HMS proves it. Jr comes over and keeps a HMS car in the top 10. So which is it. Jr, got the 25 team and simply outdrove Mears, or did they swap the 5 with the 25 for some unknown reason giving Jr what was the 5?

Mears had his shot at Gannassi, he had his shot at HMS. 25th in HMS equipment? Come on...

It was a Kyle Busch - Dale Earnhardt Jr. switch, not a Mears-Earnhardt Jr. switch

All they did was switch the numbers for Dale Jr. & Mears, not the cars.

Also, I wanna point something out in which I tried to with Alan Gustafson, as I don't believe in him being a good crew cheif.....
Kyle was paired with Alan. He had minimal success, qualifying for the chase, winning some races. This year he goes to JGR and gets paired with Steve Addington - now he's one of the three top guns.
Mears was paired with Lance before Alan, and had some really good runs, thou when with Alan, it's opps, those good runs have disappeared.
Basically my point is that Alan is not a good crew cheif and therefore with Casey away from him, maybe Casey'll prove his talent, as Kyle has (but maybe not as much as Kyle has).

As far as Mears-Ganassi, you honestly can't truly count that as Ganassi has never really had a top cup program.

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rossevans30 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2008, 09:33:48 PM »

Fine but Gustafson, Bush made the chase, Mears is 25th!!

Your points a valid if Mears was say 15th or above...

going back a bit, but Mears was around shortly after the Ganassi's 40 car was in the lead for the cup with Marlin driving. McMurry could even win races in Ganassi equipment. Best gear out there, no, but top 15 equpiment. Mears was back in 40th or so...

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DWfan4ever · « **Reply #11 on:** September 17, 2008, 01:51:33 AM »

Based on the announcement from the VP at Dodge today on Sirius there will be no move from Dodge to Toyota for GEM or any other team. They confirmed their full support for the Sprint Cup and Nationwide series, including mentioning they have long term contracts for support with Penske, GEM and Ganassi. In regards to Patrick being in the 4th car with the potential acquisition of Robbie Gordon's team and the rumour of GEM buying BDR that would put them over the 4 car team limit. Also isn't BDR losing Caterpillar at the end of the season so the only benefit for GEM to buy BDR would be if Blaney keeps the car in the top 35. Which as we know is a huge issue but would it mean Patrick will still get in that ride?

I think the best way to compare Patrick's performance is to look at his results with those of Aj Almindinger's performance for the same period of races. Look at how long it has taken Aj to finally start showing decent results, basically 60 races. Patrick has shown improving results in less than that time as he's had 2 top 25 results in the past 3 races. Sure would be nice to see a sponsor step up and lock him in for next season, then lets see how his results are.

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ladybugprincess88 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2008, 01:17:35 PM »

Quote from: rossevans30 on September 16, 2008, 09:33:48 PM

Fine but Gustafson, Bush made the chase, Mears is 25th!!

Your points a valid if Mears was say 15th or above...

going back a bit, but Mears was around shortly after the Ganassi's 40 car was in the lead for the cup with Marlin driving. McMurry could even win races in Ganassi equipment. Best gear out there, no, but top 15 equpiment. Mears was back in 40th or so...

Okay, you win

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duken · « **Reply #13 on:** September 17, 2008, 03:51:21 PM »

ross, I was actually thinking of the factory sponsorship ie: Motorcraft which is always on the 21 whether as primary sponsor or associate. But, I do agree that I didn't make that point more clear. Dodge doesn't sponsor any team directly anymore under the Mopar banner like they did when Evernham first reintroduced the brand into Sprint car competition. So, as far as Carp goes getting into the 21, he might have a better chance at a funded ride versus the GEM 4 th car which has no sponsor as of yet.

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DWfan4ever · « **Reply #14 on:** September 17, 2008, 04:07:26 PM »

Just heard Patrick on Sirius and he has confirmed that there is no guaranteed ride next year for him with GEM. It doesn't mean it won't happen but due to the sponsorship issue, they can't guarantee him a ride. He mentioned that there were already a couple of teams interested in him driving for them and is also looking at rides in the Nationwide Series. Sure hope someone signs him to a cup ride as Moody said he always has a smile on his face and just doesn't understand why Corporate Canada or Corporate America hasn't picked him up.

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