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Canadian Oval / Road Racing => Canadian Tracks => Cayuga Speedway => Topic started by: CanadianRacingOnline on June 18, 2009, 08:11:12 AM
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July 11 - ISMA + Vintage Mods a go.
W/e to include Show & Shine, Midway, Pony Rides and Music.
Friday
Prairie Oyster
The Kiger Band
Saturday
George Canyon
Aaron Prichett
Jessie Farrel
August 23 a go c/w 7 Nascar drivers
ROC
Late Model Invitational
Waltrip
Elliott
K. Wallace
Spencer
Blainey
Rutterman
R. Wallace- announcer.
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What exactly is happening on Open Wheel Weekend? The Auto Value Super Sprints have Cayuga listed on their schedule for July 11, but there has been no mention of them at all from Cayuga's side since this new "owner" took over.
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Some people from the track dropped off some flyers at my store today for the July 10-12 weekend . No mention of the Super Sprints. Only ISMA and CVM are listed. Also rides and a midway as well as live music featuring 5 Country bands.
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Country bands? Why does everyone assume we all like country music?
Can you get a better scan for use?
Thanks
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'Cause if we like Stock Car Racing, we've got to all be hillbillies right y'all?? ;)
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Probably just trying something new. Country music and stock car racing have been disconnected for quite some time now.
Also, country music fans have longer memories and aren't quite as fickle as fans of other music genres. That makes them a little easier to draw.
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Even NASCAR has acts that are not all country. If they had some good bands maybe more people would show.
This weekend in Mississauga Waterfront Festival has some great acts Sam Robberts & Bruce Cockburn & 54-40 and for the kids The BackYardigans, Dora The Explorer & Harry and his Bucket Full of Dinosaurs.
If I wasn't going to sunset this Saturday I would be there.
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There may be some time issues with getting 'good' acts. Regardless of what you all think, you can't please everyone, especially when it comes to music. That, and for every active poster on CRO, there are hundreds of fans that aren't aware of us. At any rate, I'd much rather listen to a late booking country act than any grunge band!
My crystal ball stopped working a long time ago.....The weather will be the biggest factor for Cayuga for this event, not the music genre.
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lucas oil sportsman are at PB on July 11 with an ACT 200 at Kawartha on the 12th and the Honda Indy in TO that weekend so lots of competition for the race fan
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Probably just trying something new. Country music and stock car racing have been disconnected for quite some time now.
Country musics long disconnect from stock car racing ? where do you get this stuff from  ?
 Kid Rock may have been been at Michigan but Country stars have over whelming been at most the races this year and every year since  Marty Robbins sang El Paso and Big Iron on the front stretch of Darlington in 1959 .
Country stars such as Trace Atkins , Montgomery Gentry , Megan Peeler , Jamey Johnson , Kenny Chesney , Jake Owen  etc etc have all played at NASCAR races THIS year . Denny Hamlin appeared on CMTs Cribs this year and there is no other form of music that has more of a connection to stock car racing or thier fans then country music . I like many forms of music but i am glad stock car racing has a country music connection rather then say the Hip Hop  ,  Gangsta Rap crap that is associated with sports like the NBA  . When i go to a country music concert i dont see people with their pants below their butt and i dont have to worry about being shanked or shot .
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Kid Rock sings country now...
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Country musics long disconnect from stock car racing ? where do you get this stuff from �� ?
�� Kid Rock may have been been at Michigan but Country stars have over whelming been at most the races this year and every year since �� Marty Robbins sang El Paso and Big Iron on the front stretch of Darlington in 1959 .
Country stars such as Trace Atkins , Montgomery Gentry , Megan Peeler , Jamey Johnson , Kenny Chesney , Jake Owen �� etc etc have all played at NASCAR races THIS year . Denny Hamlin appeared on CMTs Cribs this year and there is no other form of music that has more of a connection to stock car racing or thier fans then country music . I like many forms of music but i am glad stock car racing has a country music connection rather then say the Hip Hop �� , �� Gangsta Rap crap that is associated with sports like the NBA �� . When i go to a country music concert i dont see people with their pants below their butt and i dont have to worry about being shanked or shot .
I don't disagree with you. Country music and stock car racing goes together like burgers and fries, and there was a time you couldn't imagine one without the other. There was a long standing tradition at Delaware that they used to play Marty Robbins 20th Century Drifter just before the program started. (I'm talking a long time ago though)
NASCAR has gotten back to its roots a bit on the music front for sure....but I'm not really talking about NASCAR here. I'm talking about regular old short track racing. I don't think I've heard a country song played over the PA at my home track since the 80's, unless you count the odd Shania Twain song (which I don't)
It seems for a while now that at any regular speedway that I've been to, they've actively avoided any sort of country music connection. I dunno if thats to lose the idea of stock cars being a redneck thing, or even just an attempt to appeal to younger fans. But I'm hearing more rock music than country.
Doesn't matter to me one way or the other to tell you the truth. I lean towards country music myself, but the guys at Delaware seem to have developed a real affinity for using AC/DC music...and that works for me too. Frankly, I'm there for the racing. They could play Lawrence Welk tunes for all I care.
What I do know is this: They built the JLC in my city, and its big enough to attract some top acts that are guaranteed sellouts. However, BEFORE they built the JLC, we only had the facility for mid-tier acts (for the most part), and country acts were the only sure thing among concert promoters here.
I know the music biz its probably a little iffy-er these days, but if I was a promoter and I was going to gamble, I'd go with a country show. That's all I'm getting at.
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All I know is that the best two concerts they have had at Michigan were the Blues Brothers and Cletus T Judd. Blues and Country. Two brothers from different mothers as they say. For pure Entertainment they were #1. Three Doors Down was good also but since then with NASCAR's attempt to woo the Party Rock and urban youth crowd I haven't stayed thru a whole concert and they are free! Maybe I'm just getting old but when it was just the so called "Red Neck Crowd" racing was more civil. Years ago with crowds of 200,000 people you never heard of fights or assaults or stealing. Since NASCAR has been trying to get "The New Fan" there have been more and more incidents every year at Michigan. Still a small number but people seem to be less polite. Don't know what that says but it sure says something ???
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who the heck is Rutterman??? LOL
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Blugrass, BLueGrass, and mor Bluegrass That will haul in the fans That music is the purist form of music on the planet. The world needs more bluegrass ;D
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Jun 23, 2009 - We are pleased to announce the return of the Auto Value Bumper to Bumper Super Sprint series to the Cayuga International Speedway during our July 10th, 11th, 12th summer kick off weekend.
The Super Sprints are scheduled for Saturday, July 11th. A detailed schedule will be released shortly!
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I hope more cars show up at Cayuga than the 11 that came to Delaware!
How's Ryan Litt's car coming along Tommy?
My 2009 Race Count: 21
My 2009 Track Count: 13 - East Bay Raceway(FL), New Smyrna(FL), Volusia(FL), Bristol(TN), Flamboro(ON), Delaware(ON), Sunset(ON), Merrittville(ON), Ohsweken(ON), Dunn Tire Raceway Park(NY), Ransomville(NY), Sauble(ON), Kawartha(ON)
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heh...yes, hopefully all those guys have their supposed "passport issues" cleared up.
Watching high powered cars like that screaming around the big oval is pretty cool.
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You would have thought the series would have made sure they all had their passports and everything would go smooth.
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AS IF CAYUGA DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS :
Welcome To Cayuga International Speedway
Campbell Amusements
Jun 28, 2009 - We were just notified that the scheduled amusement rides provided by Campbell Amusements will not be allowed to run this July 10,11,12 weekend due to permit issues. We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause.
ITS as if every dark cloud is hanging there !!
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The ISMA weekend conflicts with the start of Cayuga's week long 150th celebration. Maybe the town didn't want any competition. lol
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Cayuga Speedways website has posted the pricing for the July 10-12 weekend. The Sunday only ticket has been lowered.
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you can blame Haldimand county town council,they do not want the track to run ,so they jerk whoever is the promoter around,hence no permit for the midway,just ask the former owners,and ask the guy that runs the Dunnville speedrome how aggravating they are at haldimand council when it comes to racing
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Myself, I'm a country fan from bluegrass to outlaw country. I also like hard rock! ;)
If my memory serves me correct, didn't Cayuga have a tribute to Pink Floyd a few years back???
Anyway, I think they should cater to all the race fans, but something might be said about the "Town Council", maybe the track don't want the rock bans for fear they pack the place and the crowd goes wild and upsets the council, I don't know???
I can remember Bluegrass @ Carlisle, it ran for almost 20 yrs or so, I think it was the town council that put the final nail in that coffin as well!
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I've driven through the grounds in a more recent May 24 bash and quite frankly considered the scene to be a disgrace to humanity...I'm sure that Talladega is no better.
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July Weekend Schedule
Friday July 10th
Gates open 9:00 am
Entertainment (Starting at 7pm) :
The Kiger Band
Prairie Oyster
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Saturday July 11th
Gates open 9:00 am
10:00 am – Hot Laps
11:00 am - Time Trials
11:45 am – 3 heats
12:15 pm – B main ?
12:30 pm – Autographs and the "Undie" 500 race.
1:30 pm – Auto Value Bumper To Bumper
Entertainment (Starting at 7pm) :
Jessie Farrell
Aaron Pritchett
George Canyon
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Sunday July 12th
Gates open 9 am
11:00 am – Vintage Modified Hot Laps
11:15 am – ISMA Hot Laps
11:45 am – Vintage Modified
12:00 pm – ISMA
1:00 pm – Vintage Modified Heats
1:30 pm – ISMA Heats
2:30 pm – Vintage Modified (25 laps)
3:00 pm – ISMA (50 laps)
Please note: Schedule is subject to change without notice!
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Just got confirmation that the AVSS show if off for Saturday. Speedway officials are still trying to confirm another class for Saturday at the 11th hour.
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Geesh! The sleeping giant just can't roll outta bed can it ???
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The AVSS website has confirmed the cancellation.
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I've just heard that the Sprints Saturday will be
replaced by the Super Trucks from Quebec
(not official yet...).
www.supertruck.ca (http://) (http://)
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That'd be an interesting show Derek!
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OK....so doing the best I can to translate from French, they are asking their drivers to go and help out Cayuga who are looking for a Saturday Show. There must be a minimum of 15 Trucks and they will receive $800.00 to start and 4 passes for each team.So I guess they're going to be busy calling their group to make this happen.
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If this does happen would any trucks from Ontario complete as well?
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Quebec group has said no thanks-insufficient lead time
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Was at the track today. It is open. There is a Midway. Not many people there yet. (But I was there at about 3pm). Didn't get a chance to walk around. Just went to get information regarding my booth and get my outstanding 2007/2008 seasons passes. Anyone planning to use their passes owing can do so at the ticket booth. Just bring a copy of the e-mail that has your promotional code and you will be issued wrist bands. The wrist bands are only for this weekend. You'll have to bring your promotional code next time for the next event. I'm planning to be there all day Sunday and make the most of it.
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what is confusing is that the track website today says the truck race has been rescheduled from July 11 to July 25 due to weather. I thought per the english translation of the message from the truck club that they had said no. They must have agreed in the meantime to running on the 25th. As I posted on another board, this truck group is not known outside of Ontario. It get's more puzzling by the minute
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ISMA is a go for Sunday, sum of the officials arrived at Cayuga last night
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Did anybody go to Cayuga today for ISMA .How was the car count,who won and how was the attendence.
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I was there...
15 cars...Not so good,but considering this passport business and the fact that the series raced ar Stafford on Tuesday and Oswego had the King of the Wings show last night,I was'nt shocked.I hope they can get more for the 2 day show at Delaware in a month!
Mark Sammut won.It was a popular victory,for obvious reasons.There were a couple of banzai moves going onto the 1st turn,one involved Sammut putting two wheels onto the grass.Chris Perley was a non-factor in the race,although he checked out in his heat.
The crowd was sparse.And for many reasons,that was'nt shocking at all.
It;s too bad because the facility for racing is fairly good.We can only hope that things change at Cayuga in the future,particularily for this open wheel fan,because I would have loved to have seen what they had originally planned for this weekend to come off.
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Watson Roadster thanks for the posting on todays event at Cayuga.You are right hope ISMA brings more cars to Delaware especially a 2 day show.As for reasons yes they raced 2 shows last week but the main issue here is the passport issue.Hope Delaware contacts ISMA to see how many cars will be there because a small turnout could leave a sour taste in racefans especially with the cost for the fan to get into this 2 day show.Would suggest to look at Delaware site as they have a weekend special (addmission) for this show that will save the racefan some money.They also have single day specials also if purchased before July 31/09.
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Yes they do...
It's 59 bucks for a 2 day ticket of it's purchased before July....25? I think...It's 39 bucks a night after that...
I'm going to assume that ISMA will bring alot more than the contingent they had this afternoon.Assuming some of the MSA guy have there passport stuff in order,and Ryan Litt is not tied up with the AVSS or USAC that weekend,20 cars would be fairly easy to achieve.
Frankly,I find this passport problem bogus.Everyone knew this would take effect at some time in the future.I have no sympathy for the competitors of "International"series who don't prepare proper identification for their participants.It shows a certain level of ignorance and complacency towards the fans of those series.
On one hand we have the AVSS,and potentially ISMA,situation where this cop out has been used.On the other hand,I was at Ohsweken last Friday for the ASCS Northern Summer Nationals and there were 37 360 sprints in the pits.Over 1/3 of the field was from the US.I'm simply not buying this passport stuff at all anymore.It comes down to laziness,I'm afraid,because most of these series have had ample warning about border identification.
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Watson Roadster Delaware specials are good.As for your comment reguarding car count as you were looking for MSA series cars to show MSA is running Friday Aug 7 in Toledo Ohio and donot run Aug 8th this could help the count for the Saturday show.Reguarding Ryan Litt if he is running USAC they have a race Aug 6th in Oswego NY and then on Friday Aug 7th AVSS is running at Dixie Speedway (Michigan).Again by looking at the schedule he would be avaiable Aug 8 this is if he is running these 2 cars.As for the passport thing alot of Americans donot have passports and the only ones that seem to have them are ones that fly.Talked to a modified dirt driver from the U.S. who was at South Buxton a couple weeks ago and asked him about the passport issue and he said he had his but his crew did not have any but did not seem concerned about going back to the States.He did say alot of drivers in racing donot have them.He was from Ohio and said he knew of a couple more drivers were scheduled to go to SBR that night but changed their minds because of this issue(passports).As for drivers of these International Series being ignorant & complacent it seems they donot care if they have to leave the U.S. to race.If it means to miss maybe 2 races that are scheluded to race in Canada so be it.The ownus is on the travelling series and the track that brings them up to be sure they have a good car count.Lets hope there is a good car count 20 plus would be great but I maybe pushing that a bit especially when MSA is running on Friday.
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I'm going to assume that ISMA will bring alot more than the contingent they had this afternoon.Assuming some of the MSA guy have there passport stuff in order,and Ryan Litt is not tied up with the AVSS or USAC that weekend,20 cars would be fairly easy to achieve.
Frankly,I find this passport problem bogus.Everyone knew this would take effect at some time in the future.I have no sympathy for the competitors of "International"series who don't prepare proper identification for their participants.It shows a certain level of ignorance and complacency towards the fans of those series.
On one hand we have the AVSS,and potentially ISMA,situation where this cop out has been used.On the other hand,I was at Ohsweken last Friday for the ASCS Northern Summer Nationals and there were 37 360 sprints in the pits.Over 1/3 of the field was from the US.I'm simply not buying this passport stuff at all anymore.It comes down to laziness,I'm afraid,because most of these series have had ample warning about border identification.
Well, from what I understand, the AVSS has had crummy counts everywhere they've gone this year, including stateside. Only reason they've fielded full fields in a couple of places is because they shared the races with another sanctioning body. (honestly, I don't really buy the "passport problems" thing....but they gotta say something.)
ISMA on the other hand has consistently been getting 20-28 cars stateside this year. (checked the ISMA results page) With the the Delaware show being a doubleheader...anyone concerned with points will be there...and no winged shows anywhere else. Won't say there'll be 28 cars, but we should have more than showed up at Cayuga.
Besides, One guy said that quite a few cars had been damaged at Oswego the night before, and I'd tend to beleive that reason. Unlike most full bodied cars, when Supermodifieds crash, the damage is generally substantial....you can't necessarily spend the overnight merely pounding out the dents to have it ready for the next day.
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Shadow - I believe you are right - a number of Supers
were damaged at Oswego. Â Even the ones that arrived left
at 2am or so according to 1 team I was talking to, so anyone
with any significant damage probably just gave up.
I'm not sure why they scheduled the race the morning
after another similar show, with a 4 or 5 hour tow in between.
Same thing with the CVM - at least 4 or 5 would have been
there if they hadn't wrecked at Flamboro the night before
(38, 64 and 46, 16, ...)
I heard that the AVSS were cancelled from Saturday since
they only had 5 or 6 cars committed to showing up.
Actually, i thought the crowd counts weren't bad compared
to some of last year's Cayuga crowds, although I expected
more people at an ISMA show. Remember the crowds at
a previous show a few years back for the NASCAR Modified tour?
I believe I counted just over 100 people in the stands at the
start of the feature. I think there was about 1000 or so
on Sunday (i'll update this count when i've finished working
on my pics and look at a view of the stands).
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OK let's get the facts straight on a few things here before rumours start flying around...
The Oswego race on Saturday night was delayed by rain at least twice...they didn't finish the feature until nearly 1 a.m. It was not an ISMA points race, and a lot of the cars that ran Cayuga Sunday didn't even go to Oswego on Saturday...Only 6 cars that were at Cayuga ran the night before at Oswego.
I don't really think the race at Oswego had a negative effect on the car count...The 55 car of Rich Reid that came to Cayuga would not have been there if they had not been out of Ohio and racing at Oswego on Saturday. ISMA was missing some of their franchise cars (they are allowed to miss one race and still maintain their franchise status), and only one Ohio car showed up...those were the real problems.
Also, the ISMA race was scheduled first, BEFORE they put this King of Wings deal together at Oswego. It was originally scheduled to be a regular MSA/Oswego challenge race.
Ryan Litt will not be running the USAC race at Oswego August 6...It's a Silver Crown race. He doesn't run in that series. He likely will be at Dixie on the 7th with AVSS. As for a Super, not sure if/when that car is going to be ready.
ASCS Summer Nationals at Ohsweken - while it may be true that 37 cars were there and 17 were Americans, that still leaves 20 Canadian cars...something ISMA and the Supermodified division does not have. It's unfair to compare the two.
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also Derek-the modified race at Cayuga was an ROC (Race of Champions) tour race promoted by Andy Harpell, not a Nascar mod tour race, but once again no-one except the hard core knew it existed. It would have been natural to advertise in the Buffalo area and Gater racing news, but nada. Americans used to make up 1/3 of the crowd at Cayuga.
And I agree with you guys, this passport excuse has gotten kind of old. They've known for eons. And a friend from North Tonawanda said he got his "super drivers license"-good for land crossings only-back within a three week turnaround.
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mike32 - i guess my memory is getting a bit ...whatever. I do remember it
being a really good Mod race, with a fairly good car count.
Tommy - any idea why the Ohio cars didnt show? I really expected them
to be there.
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Tommy - any idea why the Ohio cars didnt show? I really expected them
to be there.
I did too...a few have always made an appearance at Cayuga in the past...other than it not being a points race for them, I don't really know why...
Kudos to the Gillingham for coming.
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the car perley brought to cayuga was his main car he ran his backup car at oswego and as soon as the wing started coming apart his car really slowed down at cayuga. As for the ohio cars more of them that ran oswego should have come to cayuga it's almost as far to oswego from cayuga as it is for most of the ohio cars to drive to oswego so for an extra five hours tow and some fuel they would have picked up a decent pay and here is the key...points. In the upcoming Hy-miler weekend the highest MSA, Oswego, and isma cars in their points who haven't made show get a provisional and most of the isma cars will make show on their own so cherrypicking the race would have given them another way to get in if need be. It is possible that a couple cars from MSA may skip toledo and come to delaware for two day isma pay. Rich came with his 55 car and nothing else his crew went home from oswego luckily the supermod group is a close one and with some phone calls a small crew was there waiting for him.
As for the fan count, promotion and everchanging info can easily be blamed, by the way how much was it to get in anyway? Did the concerts go?
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The Cayuga website has removed all reference to the August "Race of Champions" event and the next event countdown clock is all zeros. I have not heard any advertising for this or found anything else on the web. Another event down the drain ???
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The "Race of Champions" Event is apparently being rescheduled to Humberstone Speedway on August 23rd. Rusty and Kenny Wallace, Dave Blaney and Jimmy Spencer are the only names I've heard being mentioned as attending. The Humberstone site states that an announcement is coming. I was told that this was heard at Ohsweken and I also received a phone call today stating the same thing. I've also seen posts on Inside Track's forum confirming this.
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Would not surprise me if this is the end of Cayuga Speedway.To bad to say but there is a time when good things come to an end.
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The "Race of Champions" Event is apparently being rescheduled to Humberstone Speedway on August 23rd. Rusty and Kenny Wallace, Dave Blaney and Jimmy Spencer are the only names I've heard being mentioned as attending. The Humberstone site states that an announcement is coming. I was told that this was heard at Ohsweken and I also received a phone call today stating the same thing. I've also seen posts on Inside Track's forum confirming this.
It is now on the site;
NASCAR Stars to make appearance at Humberstone Speedway.
Posted by Humberstone Speedway on 07/30/09 at 7:48 PM
Mark Your Calendars Race Fans!!!
August 23rd, 2009 Humberstone Speedway will be hosting Nascar Legend Rusty Wallace, Kenny Wallace, Dave Blaney and Jimmy Spencer.
Rusty will guest announce, while the others will be competing in the 358 Dirt Modified 50 Lap Race.
Autograph sessions, photo opportunites and contests will be going on.
Don't miss it.
Check back at www.humberstonespeedway.com (http://) for more details shortly.
http://www.humberstonespeedway.com/news/251015258.html (http://www.humberstonespeedway.com/news/251015258.html)
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Looks and sounds that way...they hosted some sort of private event this week in the early morning and the signs out front read as "Mazda" ... looked like some sort of film crew.
Anyone have the low down ?
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i was at Humberstone Sunday, great show again as always, and was saying how the Nascar stars were suppose to be at Cayuga and was told by some fans there that the OPP and some other people havent been paid from the last event at Cayuga and that the place is done for the year now...anyone else heard that?
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Just noticed that the Nascar Night at Humberstone is being advertised on the Cayuga Speedway website. Odd to see. But good to see also. I think it's good to see Cayuga at least letting folks know that the race has been moved if they are looking for it on their site.
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Just noticed that Cayuga's countdown clock is active again. If my math is right the date is July 10th. Did a search of all the usual sanctions and couldn't see anything scheduled and Cayuga's site doesn't say what is happening July 10th.
Maybe that is when the auction is :-\
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Website now gone. Revamp or last nail being driven ???
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Cayuga has been sold ??? Expect an announcement in March.
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Scott - is it still going to be a racetrack?
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a native casino race track i heard from a reporter who heard it from someone else
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just checked the isma site and they dont have any thing for the 11 on there site whats up