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« on: August 18, 2008, 09:08:34 PM »I appreciate every dollar and every minute of time , each of you dedicate to my favourite past time .
Thank you
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Thank you Posted by: rossevans30« on: August 18, 2008, 09:02:14 PM »The question i have is why would i sink a 1000$ into a for fun car as some one mentioned when we have a $750 claim rule!! Read my post "why 4 fun drivers need a cage". You will see a Civic there I picked up for $150, and made a cage out of one length of tube $35. And ran it lke that. Stupid yes, but it was a $185 dollar car. Think the extra $565 would get me out there safe... I'd even buy the tube bender in that price. I had the civic up forsale. 1/2 a cage in it too. Only wanted the $150 I'd be getting from scrap. Guess what, it went for scrap. I have a 92 4-door cavilier, unfortunatly V6, but would work for Mosports class. Its actually one of the better choices there. $200 its yours. Guess where it will be going in a month... Will be picking up a 6000 this week, not sure if its a 6 or a 4. That might be up for $200. And thats just me. Point is as you said the claim is gone, so who cares? Even when its was there, who is going to claim a 4 fun car for $750, even with a decent 4 point cage, when there are mini-stock cars out there for under 1,000? You can blow whatever you want on a car, and we can argue to we are blue in the face. Facts are a) there is no claim and b) your safty is priceless. The welder offer is still open, yet I've had no takers on that. Just to clarify, the offer was you bring your own wire, and weld it yourself. I'll be happy to give you tips, and you should have it all roughed in 1st. Actaully I'm kinda lost here what is your point? Is it a) safty isn't worth spending any money on b) you just plain don't want to see safe cars on the track c) racing costs money or d) a marine tank is better than a fuel cell Posted by: Jackman2007« on: August 18, 2008, 08:57:58 PM »What a Joke!!!!!Here you have it people ! Kristi explained why you run a rollbar with different sizes of tubing throughout the car very well ! I love seeing a woman explain how and why and be right . +1 for Kristi and Ross you ran a great race . I'm happy to see every extra car that appears at an invitational . It makes for quite fun racing to watch and I'm sure more fun for all you drivers . We all know that racers aren't on a high dollar payout here in Canada at this time but everyone does their best to put a show on for us all . I appreciate every dollar and every minute of time , each of you dedicate to my favourite past time . Posted by: Infield Lineup« on: August 18, 2008, 08:46:11 PM »Racingfreak, that ambulance is very very old and has been at the track many years. I believe the medics that were there saturday night were from the Orillia area. I know that Jay, our usual medic works out of the Toronto area. All are trained paramedics. I can see where you might think it was a St. John's crew, but I can assure you its not. I believe it may be an old St. John's ambulance, but it doesn't have St. John's on it. I have worked there for 7 years and its been there longer than I have!
 Posted by: bfe« on: August 18, 2008, 08:04:11 PM »You guys need to look at the old thunder car min cage. very simple and inexpesive. It was on the last page of the rules up untill a couple of years ago but no one would dare run it. One roll bar, two door bars down past your legs, one pass. door bar and one on each side going to the back.
Posted by: holland landing« on: August 18, 2008, 07:25:22 PM »The question i have is why would i sink a 1000$ into a for fun car as some one mentioned when we have a $750 claim rule!! The $ 750 claim rule was suspended @ the drivers meeting where they announced the new safety measures and rules for the class . Heres what a car really costs . Scrap metal is about $ 175 a ton right now so if the scrapper pulls the rad and the catalytic converter off of it he will get around $ 300 total for the car you want for a racer so i will use that as a base price. The car has to be 15 years old for the class and in most cases it will be closer to 20 years old so here are a few of the things its going to need . Brakes , odds are your beater will need between $ 50 - $ 300 in brake parts ,pads , shoes , rotors , drums , master cylinder , lines etc etc . If there is nothing else on your car that is perfect your brakes better be . This is not a performance issue it is the # 1 safety issue on the car . Cooling , So you want to twist your 20 year old beater upwards of 6000 rpm odds are that either the rad , water pump , hoses etc on your old car are not up to the job , expect to spend $ 20 - $ 200 here . Again this is not about making it faster just making it live . Oil Leaks your car is 2 decades old expect to have to correct several oil leak's $ 25 - $ 50 for gaskets and silicone Tie rods , steering . Since your car will probally have 200,000 or more KMs on it look for many of these parts to be wore out . It is important that your car goes where you aim it and is not wondering all over the track . Costs here will be between $ 20 - $ 200 Suspension , bushings . Your hi mile car will need some attention here for sure . Those struts that have leaked all the fluid out are dangerous since holding the gas pedal to the floor while the car bounces wildly will end very badly . Even struts from the wreckers are around $ 80 . Bushings with a 1/2 inch of play in them must be replaced as well Look to spend $ 80 to $ 200 here Fuel tank and pump , a marine tank with proper fittings and hi pressure fuel lines and clamps with a filter and a can around it is going to cost you about $ 100 . If you fabricate the stock pump into the tank . If you use an in line pump from the wreckers add $ 50 Window net , belts , fire extinguisher , seat and mounting kit . Seats are $ 200 - $ 300 and a seat mount kit is $ 77 Belts are $ 125 - $ 140 Nets are $ 30 - $ 40 A good extinguisher is about $ 40 I really don't care for the CSC cage but at $ 230 its OK . The last time i welded one up it took all day and about $ 50 bucks worth of hydro on my meter . If Ross will do it for a case of beer with decent welds i should be able to keep him busy all winter . Ralph at CSC wants $ 600 to weld up the kit in a well prepared car . I am skipping several items paint lettering numbers a bad CV joint etc etc etc and the $ 50 you will spend on fasteners and hardware a long with the 10 bucks for loctite . I also skipped all your time and the $ 200 you are going to burn driving around to get all this stuff in fuel . We still have not put a set of plugs cap and rotor on this beater so it will run decent . I can not build you a safe decent car for any where near $ 750 Posted by: luggss« on: August 18, 2008, 07:09:21 PM »Ash ur right i was there for that meeting.
Posted by: Racingfreak« on: August 18, 2008, 06:59:53 PM »if the track doesnt have st. johns ambulance then why does ur track ambulance say st. johns on it??
Posted by: Infield Lineup« on: August 18, 2008, 05:49:52 PM »Just to clarify our track does not have St. John's Ambulance as our medical staff.
Posted by: bakstreethero« on: August 18, 2008, 05:37:24 PM »Just want to say thanks to Ross Evans for giving us some candy to hand out to the kids. Class act that team is! I'm glad somebody's finaly chewing that gum!!! LOL I'll be at Mosport and Kawarthas fan appriciation with lots more! and I may even bring more bicycles to give away to some lucky kids. Posted by: Racingfreak« on: August 18, 2008, 05:32:02 PM »yeah there was still the st. johns medical crew there for the rest of the night the ambulance that showed up was there to take the injured driver to the hospital but no track owner would ever let there be racing without any medical team there and i think sunset was run really good saturday i was really pleased to see it run and to have the officials come to us before racing started and give us explanations on the way the flagging and scoring would be done was good on sunset. im pretty sure we will be back if there is a frosty and also thans ross for the candy even tho it wasnt urs lol and when me and sara come up i will definatley be there to help ya at the track anytime.
Posted by: rossevans30« on: August 18, 2008, 04:42:24 PM »Someone was asking as to where the Paramedics from the ambulance went to after making good and sure that Bob Mercer was taken out in the ambulance,? If you are making a statement like that, you should be more clear. What it sounds like was that the rest of us were running without an abulance crew at the track. (was there not an ambulace out on the track at the thunder crash?) Thats not a rumor you want to be starting unless its true. If it is, is should be made clear to the drivers. I hope Wes takes the time to clear this one up. Posted by: Wild Bill« on: August 18, 2008, 04:16:05 PM »Ok Ross is absolutely right, and Ashley he was figuratively speaking about it happening before your eyes. Is there a need for more safety? Posted by: Hardcore Racing« on: August 18, 2008, 03:46:46 PM »Don
I tried to read between the lines but not sure I am getting it. I did hear the ambulance crew had been told they were done for the night but they chose to sit in the stands in case they were needed. I really get the feeling you have some solid information on this and tried to explain it in a encrypted way but it really isn't that clear. - The crew removed Bob from the car and made sure the outside ambulance took him away? - Somebody that thinks they know better chose to fire them because they didn't just yank him out of the car and took too long (with the reading between the lines part there is only one person at the track that could fire somebody)? - They were told to leave the track and never allowed on property again (this seems to of happened to other people too)? With all this talk of safety I would like to know what the hell is going on here. I can prepare my car as best as I can but I really want to know we have a ambulance crew ready and waiting plus I was under the impression you can't run unless they are there. All I am asking for is some answers. I am not slandering anybody nor starting a smear campaign although I do suspect with your post Don you may be the next person asked to leave the property. Posted by: Donb« on: August 18, 2008, 12:54:30 PM »Someone was asking as to where the Paramedics from the ambulance went to after making good and sure that Bob Mercer was taken out in the ambulance,?
 ?/ Well someone that "THINKS" they know "BETTER" and that they took way too long in making sure that he was handled very carefully FIRED THEM AND BANNED THEM FROM THE TRACK.... The last features were run with only "FIRST AID" people handling the reins. As for the person mentioning about the car removal? The cars could not be moved until the Driver was deemed to be okay, in case he happened to pass away in the process. Thank GOD is was okay and is back home again. Hope to see you back soon Bob and running again. With only driving a four fun car for a short time, I have seen the need for batter cages and far more important better seats. They need to be seats that can have neck supports fastened to. That is what happened several times since the class first started. They need to follow the thunder cars and late model cars for safety. |
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