Break-out rule

[37enduro]

I'd like to know what everyone thinks of the break-out rule and what idea everyone thinks the magic number should be.

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[LMFAN]

23.3 should be the time in my opionion
The reason for that is that is the times a Street Stock ran in the early nintys and essientially that is what enduro cars of today are  compatable to.
If you set it at 23. you are really only affecting 3 guys and that will do nothing for the class.
23.3 will effect closer to 20 guys and bring the class where it should be.
The better the racing the more fans in the stands.


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[exracer]

heard today from a pretty reliable source 24.5 sec's.

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[Snotrod]

23.3 should be the time in my opionion
The reason for that is that is the times a Street Stock ran in the early nintys and essientially that is what enduro cars of today are  compatable to.
If you set it at 23. you are really only affecting 3 guys and that will do nothing for the class.
23.3 will effect closer to 20 guys and bring the class where it should be.
The better the racing the more fans in the stands.

I agree with you 100%

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[Shadowracer]

For those of us who are unenlightened, can you point us in the direction of this rule? I never heard of it.

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[Snotrod]

Hey Trev, this year, officials have implemented a new rule to make sure everyone is over a set time.  
The Rule Book states:
"Break-out: During the feature race any vehicle that breaks a predetermined time per second lap time will have
one half of the payout for that particular event held back until the completion of the next scheduled event that
this teams participates in. In addition to the hold back, for each lap under the predetermined lap the competitor
run will result in a one lap penalty. ( 4 lap under predetermined time will result in a 4 lap penalty of the next
event and all monies withheld will be returned at that time)"

Everyone will have their views on what the speedway is trying to accomplish. But it all circles back to keeping the cars in check, affordable, and to keep enduro as entry level.  

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[Dougy109]

24.5 is wayyy too slow as a break out. I believe high 23's are appropriate, because you can hit those under 2 grand. Know your parts, and you can do this. I have proven this, with my overheating boat anchor of a third gen. I was 24.7's with a 4cylinder Honda, and plan a much faster ride this year. I do not disagree with holding the faster guys up, just make it a fair time.

Six years ago, we had a Regal with a roll center lower then a cheap date underpants, a mild cam, and cast flat tops running low 24's.

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[jworacing]

what was the quickest time last year?

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[exracer]

what was the quickest time last year?





i believe it was 22.6

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[jworacing]

Frig that's a wee bit fast Me thinks some of those guys need to move up! just saying is all

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[notingtolose]

i think a 23.0 would be good enough. we run like 24.9-23.6 so we aren't that far off.

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[FromTheStands]

24.5 is probably just the first offer.

Like everything else, throw it out there (sometimes as a rumour) then work with everyone to come up with a number (etc.) that most everyone can live with.

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[jworacing]

Just being nosey, but I think 23.5 is probably as fast as that division needs to be and remain safe

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[Fsbandit]

I was just looking at the Enduro Nationals for last year and 22 of the 66 cars out there ran faster than 24.5. I would also have to say out of the guys that diden't run under that there were a few that very well could have.  24.5 may just be alittle to high. May lose a few drivers from the division if this is the case. Being that we raced back in the 90's when there were close to 200 cars this may not be the best # for the class.  Slow the big guys down not half the class.  Just my opinion.

Bandit

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[ernie]

Sounds like oval bracket racing to me. What is the point of this? To save the track money on tech? Why not just have the track install rev limiters and have a gear rule. I hear what people are saying about getting too fast and keeping the competition closer and safe but if you hit a setup and play by the rules why the hell shouldn't you be able to run as fast as you can. This is racing right? I know I don't drive and probably don't know what I am talking about but this just seems wrong to me.

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