Time for a new class?

[cardriver]

3300$ new crate, 300$ for shipping.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/GM-Performance-IMCA-Sealed-CT-350-602-Crate-Engine-IMCA-Approved,67820.html

$3,300 + $300 (shipping) + $360 (USD-CAD exchange) + $514.80 (HST) = $4,474 real out of pocket cost of a 602 crate.

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[cardriver]

As for cutting the pie too many ways, I think all of you stating so, are close minded. You are looking at the current body count, and not considering there's guys ALREADY running elsewhere, and would come back. You need to give them reasons, and so far we haven't.

Hope guys come back, without any suggestion of how or why?

That a real hail marry play.

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[kevilay]

As for cutting the pie too many ways, I think all of you stating so, are close minded. You are looking at the current body count, and not considering there's guys ALREADY running elsewhere, and would come back. You need to give them reasons, and so far we haven't.

Hope guys come back, without any suggestion of how or why?

That a real hail marry play.

Who are you and why do you think you know more about Delaware then all the people posting here that have races for years. I personally know people that race at tracks because delaware does not offer a ministock class. They would come back or even race at both.

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[Dougy109]

Internet toughguy (in-ter-net tuff-gy) Definition: Same as telephone toughguy, but twice as annoying. Knows everything, done everything, and has seen everything. Will never compliment, only antagonize. Generally has a beer in hand, followed by statements backed up by made up stats and unfounded facts. Toughguys will never go away, knowing that their shares in the popcorn market are going up, while others watch you try to dismember them on the internet.

When cornered, and shown wrong, the internet toughguy will possibly start with comebacks, of an ill nature. These again, will be backed up by some silly information they found somewhere on the Diva television channel, or possibly TLC networks.

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[kevilay]

Lol Doug that was great

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[JAMR2]

If you are looking for a 602.

2013 602 Crate with 30 races in a Dirt Sportsman.  Never Opened.  $2000  Call Ryan 905-317-1886.

http://ohswekenspeedway.websitetoolbox.com/post/602-crate-7122165

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[Wheelsspin]

I agree with kev that was well said Doug.you know the 4 v8 classes ss truck v8st & enduro are only 3 sec. Apart so I guess they are splitting drivers.that happened because Delaware let the rules get out of hand. So something has got to give.combining v8st & enduro make sense. Same thing with ss & trucks. $15000.00   to build front running truck or $18000.00 for ss. That's why the truck #s are were there at .they all do have one thing in common that is they cost to much money. So that's were I think mini stocks come in to give the bone stock drivers a fast & cheaper class to move up to.

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[cardriver]

Internet toughguy (in-ter-net tuff-gy) Definition: Same as telephone toughguy, but twice as annoying. Knows everything, done everything, and has seen everything. Will never compliment, only antagonize. Generally has a beer in hand, followed by statements backed up by made up stats and unfounded facts. Toughguys will never go away, knowing that their shares in the popcorn market are going up, while others watch you try to dismember them on the internet.

When cornered, and shown wrong, the internet toughguy will possibly start with comebacks, of an ill nature. These again, will be backed up by some silly information they found somewhere on the Diva television channel, or possibly TLC networks.

What did that add, other than to describe yourself?

I disagreed with your statements. I asked how you expect to get drivers back without reason, to expand on your thought. Them' fightin words for sure. That isn't calling you out you moron. It never ceases to amaze me how many inbreed retards there are in racing that get frighted and confused when then are wrong, and start pounding the keys.

If you want to see me tell you what I have to your face - wow a disagreement about Delaware - come see me. If you are immature enough to start throwing punches over that I'm game. But I already know your type, you wouldn't say jack shit if you had to put your name to it. I'll even toss you an invitation this weekend at AC. Site number 167/168, 5th wheel with the keg fridge. You can come have a beer and discuss Delaware classes, or you can be a real life tough guy out to kick my ass because I disagreed with your view of Delware. I'd say I'd leave a light on, but with your type it just means the light burns out.

Carefully consider your next post. We can go back to discussing racing or you can make a fool out of yourself again.

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[cardriver]

Who are you and why do you think you know more about Delaware then all the people posting here that have races for years. I personally know people that race at tracks because delaware does not offer a ministock class. They would come back or even race at both.

Then I would assume they were at the open 4 cylinder - weren't they? Or maybe you overestimate who will come out, because it seems its just a matter of adding more dates to a class that is already there for 2-3 nights.

Still confused here, what is the difference between a bone stock and a mini-stock? 3 different classes all for the same car, say a 2000 Neon - enduro, bone (chaos???) and now mini? You don't see that as splitting the field?

Also if as you claim someone wanted to run their mini-stock at Delaware, what would prevent them from running it in Bone stock, and therefor being able to run the track without the addition of yet another class?



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[Racer123]

Wow, you guys (cardriver & dougy) need to get yourselves some bonestocks & let John promote the hell out of it. That will fill the stands, not that there's many empty seats now for bonestock races.

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[Wheelsspin]

Wow!! Not were I thought this thread was going to go lol.anyways our plans as of now to build a bone stock & stink up the show with the other 4-5 cars winning all the races,and then when someone asks  why don't you guys move up ?, and I will say we would but not if it's going to cost $ 10 grand lol !!

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[Wheelsspin]

Check Delaware website: division rules @ my laps for lap times , you will see the difference maybe .

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[cardriver]

Wow!! Not were I thought this thread was going to go lol.anyways our plans as of now to build a bone stock & stink up the show with the other 4-5 cars winning all the races,and then when someone asks  why don't you guys move up ?, and I will say we would but not if it's going to cost $ 10 grand lol !!

Opens the question.. What is it really about? The cost of the class, or junior feeder/learner classes for the upper classes?

Goes back to what was said before, the higher the COST the harder it is to make someone move up a class when they should.

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[cardriver]

Check Delaware website: division rules @ my laps for lap times , you will see the difference maybe .

Ok I did, from the pumpkin smasher weekend when both bone and open mini ran.

http://www.mylaps.com/en/events/1083378

bone ranges from 25-27 second (huge range BTW)
open mini ranges from 23-26 seconds

Therefor excluding the fastest and the slowest cars the middle of both fields are running in about the same range, or at least a tighter range than the fastest to the slowest in each field.

If the mini stocks have better tires for example, that would explain any difference in time at all.

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[Wheelsspin]

In our case it's cost ,we currently race @ wonderland speedway a little dirt track outside of London,buy far the best place we have ever raced at . Problem is it might close, so Delaware is our next opt. Bone stocks are great for new drivers . My son is only 18 but with 11 years of racing so it guess it will have to be bone stocks because I'm not spending 8 - 10 grand on a fuckin enduro car.

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