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Offline Friday Night Regular

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Rules And Decision Makers
« on: July 16, 2007, 10:01:41 AM »
I am a fan (or was a fan) of the Friday night racing. Untill I witnessed some dumb moves by a certain racer
who ended the season of a fellow competitor. Not only did he end the guys season, he got black flagged
and thats it. I heard he may have lost some points, but thats it. Maybe the driver should be suspended
untill the guy he wrecked is back racing. And then the Track has the ignorance to use a picture of the wreck as the Home Page title. REAL NICE GUYS.

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2007, 11:17:28 AM »
I know I'm old and may have trouble spotting certain things, but for the life of me, I can't spot an accident in the home page photo of the Delaware site.....care to elaborate ??

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2007, 11:31:48 AM »
Yeah its right under the title. Top of page. The 88 truck is rubbing the inside wall.The 41 truck is
******* who wrecked him. They should have a picture there of some clean racing or the winner.

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2007, 11:34:19 AM »
I didn't see the wreck you are talking about, so I can't comment too much.

What I can say, and I believe I speak for everyone who has ever been on the losing side of a racing accident, is that I understand you're frustration.  There is no worse feeling than the one you get as you head home with a wrecked racecar in tow.  Total bummer...

Conversely, there is no better feeling than the one you get after a checkered flag or a really great night of racing.  That's what keeps racers going...the pursuit of that feeling.  

That's what makes racing such an awesome sport.  If you're really a friday night regular then you know that as well as I...and I'll bet you're back soon, hopefully to experience one of the good nights.

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2007, 11:52:00 AM »
Oh I'll be there to see if anythings going to happen to the 41 driver. And if the track doesn't do anything about it thats a shame. I understand things happen, but they are called accidents. What happened
on friday was called stupidity.

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2007, 12:46:51 PM »
Like I said, completely understand the anger/frustration.  Stupid things are done in every single race and the end result is usually a wrecked car or more.  Unfortunately, that's just part of racing.  Even more unfortunate is that a lot (certainly not all, and I won't go as far to say the majority) of fans enjoy the stupidity because of the havoc and carnage it causes.

This post you've made will have a lot of eyes on the 41 truck next race, wondering if he gets wrecked like you hope.  That's not a good thing.  Racing isn't about revenge.  The best way to avenge a stupid move is to come back the next week and blow by him on the outside with a good clean pass.  In my opinion, it feels the best, and is appreciated more across the board - including the lovely people who provide the financial support.

Another way to look at it, which I believe will help any driver with an itch to deliver a little payback, is this...

On any given race night, some young kid is going to be there watching you for the first time.  What kind of first impression do you want to make?

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2007, 12:55:19 PM »
And as far as punishment from the track...

Anyone familiar with the incident, was the 41 at fault?  If so, did he receive a black flag?  If he did then that's where the issue drops.  Nothing more to be done.

That being said, in the past I've been a supporter of the "you miss as many races as the guy you wrecked" punishment.  However, that opens a whole new can of worms - distinguishing between accidental, deliberate, and stupid.

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2007, 01:11:45 PM »
I don't want to see him get wrecked. I just hope the officials review the situation and act accordingly.
I wouldn't want to see someone else have all their time and money flushed down the toilet.
We all know the drivers don't race to make to money, if they did they would take part in the
King of the Hill races.

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2007, 01:43:24 PM »
I am a fan (or was a fan) of the Friday night racing. Untill I witnessed some dumb moves by a certain racer
who ended the season of a fellow competitor. Not only did he end the guys season, he got black flagged
and thats it. I heard he may have lost some points, but thats it. Maybe the driver should be suspended
untill the guy he wrecked is back racing. And then the Track has the ignorance to use a picture of the wreck as the Home Page title. REAL NICE GUYS.
How did that wreck end Rick Verberne's season? It looked hard, but it didn't look like the truck was too damaged to be recovered....From what I saw of the wreck, it looked like two guys going for one spot....

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2007, 01:47:47 PM »
Green flagged dropped, they were going down the backstretch. 88 was on the inside, 56 was on the outside, 41 thought he could fit between the two of them. He hit the right rear corner of the 88
and turned him in to the wall wrecking him. 41 must of wanted to lead lap 1. I know he has no patience.

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2007, 02:14:10 PM »
The truck was pretty mangled and looks like it can be repaired, however I was more concerned with the health of Verbern who is a fair sized gentlemen that when hitting the inside wall drivers door first was quite scary.

While were on the subject of rules and such. In the Late models, why is the guy 2nd in points in the first heat, and starting 4th in the feature.  And when someone gives me the BS answer of this magic 3 week average line up. tell me how a giy 2nd in the points is way up front.



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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2007, 02:50:59 PM »
They go by money earned in the last 3 races. With the 77 finishing 20th in the 140 lapper that pays alot more than an average Friday night, that puts him up front.

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2007, 03:24:42 PM »
They go by money earned in the last 3 races. With the 77 finishing 20th in the 140 lapper that pays alot more than an average Friday night, that puts him up front.

Bingo.

Special events usually have escalated pursues that are heavily front-loaded.  Win one of them and you're starting at the back for three weeks.  Finish poorly, and you'll be near the front.

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2007, 10:02:29 PM »
I have heard that  the driver of the 41 was invited to a meeting at the track office during the week.  There is a reputation that preceeds the 41 as an impatient and rough driver.  Some have gone as far as to say that he hasn't adjusted his driving from enduro mode to truck.

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Re: Rules And Decision Makers
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2007, 10:10:06 PM »
 How did that wreck end Rick Verberne's season? It looked hard, but it didn't look like the truck was too damaged to be recovered....From what I saw of the wreck, it looked like two guys going for one spot....
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This has ended my season due to the damage received on the 88 truck, the frame is bent on the front as well as the rear. I am not about to go through what my cousin had to a few weeks back only to come out and get wrecked by the same endurance style driver again. I have no real problem with Steve Lovie but I do have a problem with the way he tries to push his way to the front by going three wide on lap #1 !!!!

We are also waiting to hear if giving headers to only crate engine rule in the truck class Will be amended before we will decide what to do for next year.

Rick Verberne

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